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5401 [lbo-talk] who made Gates #1? -- rank: 1000

<http://www.counterpunch.org/reed07272009.html> How Henry Louis Gates Got Ordained as the Nation's "Leading Black Intellectual" Post-Race Scholar Yells Racism By ISHMAEL REED ... While his alliance with feminists gave Gates career a powerful boost, it was his Op ed for the Times blaming continued anti-Semitism on African Americans that brought the public intellectual uptown. It was then that Gates was ordained as the pre-eminent African American scholar when, if one polled ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Jul 27 09:21:18 PDT 2009

5402 [lbo-talk] Merce Cunningham, RIP -- rank: 1000

Sad to read of Merce Cunningham's death. Dying at 90 is hardly premature, but still.... Wonderful stuff. Glad we got to see that nearly 90 show at BAM a few months ago (with Sonic Youth!). Was he the last great embodiment of that mid-20th century high modernist avant garde? Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Jul 27 08:25:34 PDT 2009

5403 [lbo-talk] Blue Dogs cashing in -- rank: 1000

On Jul 27, 2009, at 9:12 AM, Carrol Cox wrote: > If a proposition applies to more than 1 incident, then it is abstract. > If it applies to _anything_ that happens tomorrow, then it is > abstract. > If it applies to two or more people, then it is abstract. I'm not sure > how Doug is using the word "abstract" here. If a moral proposition > isn't > abstract it is meaningless. You forgot the "universal" part. And you're the one who brought up the alleged pip ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Jul 27 08:13:09 PDT 2009

5404 [lbo-talk] Blue Dogs cashing in -- rank: 1000

On Jul 26, 2009, at 11:28 AM, Carrol Cox wrote: > Where does morality come from? > > I guess the moralists on the list have a private pipeline to the > eternal > or something. Every little urge they have they label moral and that > takes care of it. You know what? You're kind of a prick. No one ever claimed any access to the eternal. If you'd been paying attention, you'd have read that. But I know you like commenting on things you haven't read, so I shouldn't be surprised. Do ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Jul 26 10:33:57 PDT 2009

5405 [lbo-talk] An Open Letter to Lefty Friends, Colleagues and Bitter Foes Who're Disappointed by Obama -- rank: 1000

Julio Huato: > wo, have the leftists who supported Obama's election suffered a > political defeat? At most, we can say that leftists who supported > Obama's election are suffering from a frustration attack, because > their best hopes haven't been realized yet and may not be realized any > time soon (or at all under Obama). But that is not a defeat. In my > book, defeat means that your forces have been decimated and > demoralized, that your ability to fight has been impaired ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Jul 26 07:49:10 PDT 2009

5406 [lbo-talk] An Open Letter to Lefty Friends, Colleagues and Bitter Foes Who're Disappointed by Obama -- rank: 1000

On Jul 25, 2009, at 8:51 PM, Joseph Catron wrote: > Based upon what? Feel free to refer me to an article or book if it's > too > lengthy for an e-mail exchange, but I'd really like to see the actual > argument here. Dan Lazare, The Frozen Republic. >> Have you read The Federalist Papers? >> > > A long, long time ago. What in it should I revisit? The deliberate construction of the separation of powers as a conservatizing force.

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sat Jul 25 17:58:11 PDT 2009

5407 [lbo-talk] An Open Letter to Lefty Friends, Colleagues and Bitter Foes Who're Disappointed by Obama -- rank: 1000

On Jul 25, 2009, at 8:02 PM, Joseph Catron wrote: > This is the second time within a week I've seen an LBO-Talker make > this > claim, here or elsewhere, and I'd be very interested in hearing > either of > you, or anyone else, expand on it. Between McCollum vs. Board of > Education, > Brown vs. Board of Education, Gideon vs. Wainwright, Miranda vs. > Arizon, Roe > vs. Wade, and others that have inevitably slipped my mind, hasn't the > American judiciary often stood ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sat Jul 25 17:25:53 PDT 2009

5408 [lbo-talk] Blue Dogs cashing in -- rank: 1000

On Jul 25, 2009, at 4:37 PM, Gar Lipow wrote: > You want to explain this? I am sometimes deeply critical during Amy > Goodman interviews of her not having done her homework adequately. She > lets things by than I know are bullshit. Some of that is probably due > to limited time, wishing to move on to the next question, and knowing > she can get a guest to rebut it later in the segment. But I'm pretty > sure some of it is because she has not done sufficient research to > reco ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sat Jul 25 13:44:29 PDT 2009

5409 [lbo-talk] Blue Dogs cashing in -- rank: 1000

On Jul 25, 2009, at 4:20 PM, Michael Smith wrote: > What may be confusing Carrol, and is certainly confusing me, is > this: what does "morality" mean to you if not "abstract universal > principles"? Most of the philosophy of morals consists of trying > to find a basis for such principles -- and it hasn't been a shining > success. I think it's wrong that some people have three houses while some are homeless. Imperial war disgusts me. These are visceral feelings ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sat Jul 25 13:32:17 PDT 2009

5410 [lbo-talk] Blue Dogs cashing in -- rank: 1000

On Jul 25, 2009, at 4:52 PM, Miles Jackson wrote: > The Ollman chapter that Carrol mentioned earlier in the thread is > helpful here (online at http://www.nyu.edu/projects/ollman/docs/a_ch04.php) > . The claim that we should use abstract, universal principles to > judge specific acts is capitalist ideology through and through. Who said anything about abstract, universal principles? You and Carrol do, but I didn't.

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sat Jul 25 13:11:11 PDT 2009

5411 [lbo-talk] Blue Dogs cashing in -- rank: 1000

On Jul 25, 2009, at 12:17 PM, shag carpet bomb wrote: > I've asked this question three times now, and everyone who thinks > morality matters, that there is something wrong with carrol, have > refused to answer me. > > What improves politics? What advantage do you get? For me, it's a couple of things. One is C's habit of denying both morality and the analysis of motivation. But he's as capable of moral denunciation as anyone - he often comes off with an almost Old Testament-y fe ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sat Jul 25 10:35:47 PDT 2009

5412 [lbo-talk] Black scholar arrest angers Obama -- rank: 1000

On Jul 24, 2009, at 8:36 PM, Doug Henwood wrote: > think we live in the same town and I don't know what you're talking > about. Of course, I should restate the obvious - I'm white and look pretty respectable. The experience of young black males is completely different.

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Jul 24 17:53:40 PDT 2009

5413 [lbo-talk] Black scholar arrest angers Obama -- rank: 1000

On Jul 24, 2009, at 7:09 PM, Michael Smith wrote: > In my town, cops have become so staggeringly arrogant that > they won't even acknowledge that you exist unless they want > to cuff you. Ordinary human interactions have become > next to impossible. You ask a question and the cop stares > over your head and pretends you're not there. I think we live in the same town and I don't know what you're talking about. I've had many entirely civil interactions with the cops in my precinct ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Jul 24 17:36:19 PDT 2009

5414 [lbo-talk] climbdown -- rank: 1000

POLITICO Breaking News: ----------------------------------------------------- In a surprise appearance in the White House briefing room, President Obama said he has spoken to Cambridge Police Sergeant James Crowley. In my choice of words, I unfortunately gave the impression that I was maligning the Cambridge Police Department or Sergeant Crowley specifically, Obama said. For more information...http://www.politico.com

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Jul 24 11:54:25 PDT 2009

5415 [lbo-talk] Blue Dogs cashing in -- rank: 1000

On Jul 24, 2009, at 8:33 AM, Carrol Cox wrote: > You seem to hold the odd idea (as does Doug) that the only grounds > for passion are moral. A Christian hangover I guess. I hate the DP > and > want to destroy it. It is a major source of immense human misery - but > it is a mere superstition to think that those feelings require a > moralistic basis. So they're just, what, scientific? Why care about the misery of others? Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Jul 24 05:52:37 PDT 2009