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5311 [lbo-talk] Hamid Dabashi on Iran -- rank: 1000

Chris, you're making no sense. Most educated people of any nationality regard Holocaust denial as ludicrous and embarrassing. An exception like David Irving or even Pat Buchanan proves nothing. On Jun 21, 2009, at 8:54 PM, Chris Doss wrote: > David Irving is well-educated. I'm not sure this kind of thing > correlates with education so much as it does with an irrational > desire that history have been otherwise than what it was (held for > various emotional reasons). > > > ...

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Date:	Sun Jun 21 17:58:57 PDT 2009

5312 [lbo-talk] Hamid Dabashi on Iran -- rank: 1000

On Jun 21, 2009, at 6:33 PM, Lajany Otum wrote: > This is a true and accurate statement, provided we add that the only > Court of World Opinion that counts in such matters of "embarassment" > is the one constituted by the former colonial powers of Western > Europe plus the states of North America and Australasia. You mean educated Iranians aren't themselves embarrassed by Holocaust denial? > For instance, I seem to recall that Ahmadinejad's speech before the > recent ...

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5313 [lbo-talk] new radio product -- rank: 1000

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5314 [lbo-talk] Hamid Dabashi on Iran -- rank: 1000

On Jun 21, 2009, at 6:05 PM, ravi wrote: > On Jun 20, 2009, at 9:41 PM, Doug Henwood wrote: >> Iran has some pretty shitty social indicators, but on the other >> hand, it's not a country where people are eating dirt. Much of the >> population is educated, sophisticated, and wants to join the world. > > > Join the world? Have sanctions lifted, stop being seen as a pariah state, get rid of a president who embarrasses them around the world, etc. At least that's what ...

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5315 [lbo-talk] On Iran -- rank: 1000

On Jun 21, 2009, at 2:09 PM, Chris Doss wrote: > And was gushing about his wife (oooh! she's a poet!). He seems to > have a serious case of hero worship going on. So you listened to the interview? Or you just sayin'?

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5316 [lbo-talk] On Iran -- rank: 1000

On Jun 21, 2009, at 1:20 PM, Lenin's Tomb wrote: > Given that he compared Mousavi to Martin Luther King jr, it is surely > obvious that Dabashi is far too excited about this guy. Mousavi's > Rafsanjani family backers would surely be extremely displeased to > hear of > any covert socialist agenda on his part. True, he was in his early > years on > the left of the Islamic Republican Party, favoured redistribution of > wealth > and nationalisation of key enterprises, an ...

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Date:	Sun Jun 21 11:04:33 PDT 2009

5317 [lbo-talk] On Iran -- rank: 1000

On Jun 21, 2009, at 9:46 AM, Michael McIntyre quoted: > Mousavi's economic policy, on the other hand, > has been shaped by a number of vocal critiques of > privatization, and by economists who had clustered in the > Institute of Religion and Economics. The core of their > arguments about the economy is based on good governance, > institution building, and maintaining sate enterprises for > their employment generating role, while channeling surplus > oil revenues to exp ...

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Date:	Sun Jun 21 08:34:46 PDT 2009

5318 [lbo-talk] Hamid Dabashi on Iran -- rank: 1000

On Jun 20, 2009, at 10:00 PM, Chris Doss wrote: > If you think that "Bob doesn't think swimming is really important" > is an insult to Bob or means that Bob is primitive. You think that was Shag's point?

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Date:	Sat Jun 20 19:07:24 PDT 2009

5319 [lbo-talk] Hamid Dabashi on Iran -- rank: 1000

On Jun 20, 2009, at 9:34 PM, Chris Doss wrote: > I think Michael's point is that what you see as important the > majority of humanity may see as frivolous. > > I mean, really. "I can't go swimming (in the desert)! I can't name > my kid Hiddzubb-ulla-Nyarthathotop-Yog-Sothoth! Oh noes! The dire > oppression! I must revolt!" > > Middle class concerns indeed. Iran has some pretty shitty social indicators, but on the other hand, it's not a country where people are ...

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Date:	Sat Jun 20 18:41:21 PDT 2009

5320 [lbo-talk] Hamid Dabashi on Iran -- rank: 1000

On Jun 20, 2009, at 8:16 PM, Michael Smith wrote: > But suppose you've come from a family where nobody has ever swum, or > named a kid anything unusual. Suppose the music you like is the music > you've been hearing since you were born. And paying bribes is seen > in the same light as we see paying taxes -- a nuisance, but part of > life. > > This describes most of humanity, doesn't it? We're the exceptions. And there's nothing to be valued in our state of exception? Let's se ...

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Date:	Sat Jun 20 18:12:16 PDT 2009

5321 [lbo-talk] Iran protest news sources -- rank: 1000

On Jun 20, 2009, at 3:39 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: > R*egardless of what happens in Iran, they are going to end up with a > tyranny. The only question is whether it will be a reasonably > patriotic > tyranny or a tyranny subordinate to western interests. No doubt you prefer the "patriotic" tyranny to the "subordinate" one, but why?

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Date:	Sat Jun 20 13:31:17 PDT 2009

5322 [lbo-talk] exploitation of pro-athletes was Re: Hamid Dabashi onIran -- rank: 1000

On Jun 19, 2009, at 10:19 PM, ravi wrote: > Carrol would be a pretty sweet chap ... in person. He was the two times I met him. The Internet gives free rein to evil twins. Doug

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Date:	Sat Jun 20 04:35:50 PDT 2009

5323 [lbo-talk] UAW picks Morgan Stanley guy -- rank: 1000

UAW Medical Trust Selects Former Analyst Girsky as GM Director 2009-06-18 21:37:06.879 GMT By Katie Merx and Bill Koenig June 18 (Bloomberg) -- Trustees of the Voluntary Employee Beneficiary Association for retired United Auto Workers union- represented employees of General Motors Corp. have named Stephen Girsky as a director of the automaker. The appointment was disclosed in an e-mailed statement from the UAW. The trustees have the right to name one director of the automaker with consent of the ...

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Date:	Fri Jun 19 18:28:22 PDT 2009

5324 [lbo-talk] exploitation of pro-athletes was Re: Hamid Dabashi onIran -- rank: 1000

On Jun 19, 2009, at 5:48 PM, SA wrote: > Carrol Cox wrote: > >> ravi's objection to "dryness" is precisely the longing of the >> isolated >> bourgeois individual for warmth and human company. > > If only those bourgeois individuals could experience the warmth and > human company of Carrol Cox. They'd turn Marxist in a heartbeat. How unscientific of you. Doug

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Date:	Fri Jun 19 17:27:04 PDT 2009

5325 [lbo-talk] paranoia -- rank: 1000

On Jun 18, 2009, at 2:05 AM, Barry Brooks wrote: > Pat Costello posted this to the Marxism list... > > http://www.chartingstocks.net/2009/06/proof-israeli-effort-to-destabilize-iran-via-twitter/ > > Right-wing Israeli interests are engaged in an all out Twitter > attack with hopes of delegitimizing the Iranian election and causing > political instability within Iran. Iranians seem to be doing a pretty good job of that all by themselves. Never knew that chartists cared so muc ...

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Date:	Thu Jun 18 12:30:52 PDT 2009