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5266 [lbo-talk] Tell them we are democrats (was: freedom to swim) -- rank: 1000

On Jun 27, 2009, at 11:58 AM, Marv Gandall wrote: > (Via Louis Proyect's list. Unfortunately, there's a lack of this > kind of > first-hand English-language reporting to inform opinion on both > sides of the > issue) > > URL: http://www.zcommunications.org/znet/viewArticle/21813 > Iran's Rural Vote and Election Fraud > June 27, 2009 > By Eric Hooglund > > I just heard a CNN reporter in Tehran say that Ahmadinejad's support > base was rural. Is it possible t ...

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Date:	Sat Jun 27 12:54:31 PDT 2009

5267 [lbo-talk] Tell them we are democrats (was: freedom to swim) -- rank: 1000

On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Michael Smith wrote: > On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:09:44 -0700 > Dennis Claxton <ddclaxton at earthlink.net> wrote: > >> Here's another quaint idea. Try reading the report, all of it even. > > I did, actually. Found it quite unconvincing -- an exercise > in tendentious, parti-pris statistical thumbsucking. Could you, as they say in academia, unpack this? It looks like very standard electoral analysis, and quite convincing. Perhaps you could ...

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Date:	Sat Jun 27 04:41:05 PDT 2009

5268 [lbo-talk] Tell them we are democrats (was: freedom to swim) -- rank: 1000

On Jun 26, 2009, at 11:43 PM, Michael Smith wrote: > What happened -- according to the official stats -- is that > a candidate went from 6% to 50-something %, in one province, > in the space of four years -- against different opponents, > in a different economic and political setting, and after four > years of incumbency. > > This I do find believeable, though certainly remarkable. > Do you find it incredible? Pretty close to it, yeah. Esp since the economy sucked ass.

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Date:	Sat Jun 27 04:32:37 PDT 2009

5269 [lbo-talk] Tell them we are democrats (was: freedom to swim) -- rank: 1000

On Jun 26, 2009, at 11:17 PM, Bill Bartlett wrote: > At 8:46 PM -0400 26/6/09, Doug Henwood wrote: > >> Man, I never thought I'd find myself defending the U.S. electoral >> system, but at least we don't have a bunch of clerics vetting >> candidates for office. Yeah, I know there are all kinds of informal >> vetting mechanisms - money, restrictive ballot laws, ideology, >> media idiocy, etc. - but at least in theory anyone here can run for >> office. So t ...

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5270 [lbo-talk] Tell them we are democrats (was: freedom to swim) -- rank: 1000

On Jun 26, 2009, at 10:58 PM, Michael Smith wrote: > On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 22:39:16 -0400 > shag carpet bomb <shag at cleandraws.com> wrote: > >> so why did they come out in force and roundly reject Ahmadinejad's >> buddies >> in the mid-term elections? > > Dunno. You'd have to ask them. Why did people here re-elect W in > 2004 and "reject" his "buddies" in 2006? > > If I understand your line of argument, it's that there must > ...

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5271 [lbo-talk] Tell them we are democrats (was: freedom to swim) -- rank: 1000

On Jun 26, 2009, at 6:51 PM, Michael Smith wrote: > Quaint, huh? This may be partly due to the fact that Iran doesn't have > an enlightened, modern Electoral College. Man, I never thought I'd find myself defending the U.S. electoral system, but at least we don't have a bunch of clerics vetting candidates for office. Yeah, I know there are all kinds of informal vetting mechanisms - money, restrictive ballot laws, ideology, media idiocy, etc. - but at least in theory anyone here can run ...

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Date:	Fri Jun 26 17:46:24 PDT 2009

5272 [lbo-talk] Fwd: Was the Iranian Election Stolen? Does It Matter? -- rank: 1000

On Jun 26, 2009, at 6:09 PM, ken hanly wrote: > Do you really think that the Guardian council would admit that this > phenomenom took place if they thought that it proved that there was > fraud or ballot stuffing?You don't address the argument at all. You > just accuse Huato of apologetics. What sort of argumentation is > that? Well I will answer for you. It is an ad hominem fallacy. Wrong hominem, dude - it was Mark Weisbrot I was arguing with. But the GC had to admit something ...

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Date:	Fri Jun 26 15:23:24 PDT 2009

5273 [lbo-talk] Fwd: Was the Iranian Election Stolen? Does It Matter? -- rank: 1000

On Jun 26, 2009, at 5:09 PM, Julio Huato quoted Mark Weisbrot: > The letter from the Guardian Council also offers a number of reasons > that a > city or town can have a vote total that exceeds the number of eligible > voters: some towns are weekend or vacation destinations, some voters > are > commuters, some districts are not demographically distinct entities, > and > Iranians can vote wherever they want (unlike in the United States, > where > they must vote at the ...

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Date:	Fri Jun 26 14:17:29 PDT 2009

5274 [lbo-talk] new radio product -- rank: 1000

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5275 [lbo-talk] middle-eastern dance -- rank: 1000

On Jun 26, 2009, at 1:19 AM, Joanna wrote: > I find the whole idea of "gender-neutral" dance completely contrary > to every experience I have had of dance. Mark Morris tries, or so I recall from the dance events my first wife used to take me to.

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5276 [lbo-talk] US $3.5t in the hole -- rank: 1000

On Jun 26, 2009, at 10:29 AM, Bill O'Connor wrote: > (Doug, I changed that Subject to trillion) Ooops. Thanks.

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5277 [lbo-talk] US $3.5b in the hole -- rank: 1000

From: "U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis" <subscribe at bea.gov> Date: June 26, 2009 8:43:56 AM EDT To: dhenwood at panix.com Subject: BEA News: US Intl Investment Position, 2008 The U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA) has issued the following news release today: The U.S. net international investment position at yearend 2008 was - $3,469.2 billion (preliminary), as the value of foreign investments in the United States continued to exceed the value of U.S. investments abroad ...

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5278 [lbo-talk] Tell them we are democrats (was: freedom to swim) -- rank: 1000

On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:34 AM, Chris Doss wrote: > And maybe they're not. In fact, probably some of them are, and some > of them aren't. No kidding. I really don't know who you're arguing with.

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Date:	Fri Jun 26 04:48:29 PDT 2009

5279 [lbo-talk] Tell them we are democrats (was: freedom to swim) -- rank: 1000

On Jun 25, 2009, at 4:43 PM, Chris Doss wrote: > It would be beyond belief if a large number of people raised in an > Islamic theocracy were opposed to Islam. Maybe they're just opposed to the theocracy part.

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5280 [lbo-talk] Tell them we are democrats (was: freedom to swim) -- rank: 1000

On Jun 25, 2009, at 3:28 PM, Michael Smith wrote: > Unless you assume really massive electoral fraud -- massive enough > to change the result -- of which there is no substantive evidence, > then it seems pretty clear that a substantial majority of Iranians > *don't* "want a secular government." Maybe, maybe not. It'd be nice if Iranians were allowed to have the choice, no? Doug

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