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4426 [lbo-talk] Signs of the times -- rank: 1000

On Sep 16, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Chris Doss wrote: > There may be a Mormon equivalent to Thomas Aquinas or Duns Scotus > out there, but if so I haven't heard of him. They've been dead for 700 years! Today, we've got the cretinous Ratso.

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Date:	Wed Sep 16 11:23:00 PDT 2009

4427 [lbo-talk] Van Jones writes... -- rank: 1000

[sent to his supporters, of which I am not one] Dear Friends: My family and I want to thank everyone for the outpouring of love and support that we have received over the past week or so. I resigned from the White House on September 6, and I have remained silent since then - in keeping with my promise not to be a distraction during a key moment in the Obama Presidency. Over the past several days, however, many people have been asking how they can help and what they can do. The main thing is t ...

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4428 [lbo-talk] Signs of the times -- rank: 1000

On Sep 16, 2009, at 12:34 PM, Shane Mage wrote: > On Sep 16, 2009, at 12:20 PM, SA wrote: >> Chris Doss wrote: >>> Plus you have to admit that there is something completely deranged >>> abiut converting from Catholicism, with its 2000 years of >>> intellectual tradition, to the gutter religion of Mormonism. >> I think Catholicism supplies the Church of JCLS with a large >> majority of its U.S. converts, for some reason. I saw a priest >> lame ...

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Date:	Wed Sep 16 09:44:14 PDT 2009

4429 [lbo-talk] the raving haters in perspective -- rank: 1000

A debate s alight on why disapproval of Barack Obama has become so unusually strong. The answer: It hasn t. Three of the last four presidents have seen this level of strong unpopularity one of them faster; another, far deeper. After eight months in office, 31 percent of Americans in the latest ABC/Post poll strongly disapprove of Obama s performance as president. Bill Clinton reached the same level of strong disapproval in five months. And while it took George W. Bush longer to get there ...

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Date:	Wed Sep 16 09:02:17 PDT 2009

4430 [lbo-talk] nitwit ok, liar not -- rank: 1000

<http://www.rules.house.gov/archives/house_comm_dec.htm> Decorum in the House and in Committees Under clause 1(a)(1) of Rule XI, the rules of the House are the rules of its committees as far as applicable. Consequently, Members should comport themselves with the rules of decorum and debate in the House and in Committees specifically with regard to references to the President of the United States as stated in Section 370 of the House Rules and Manual. As stated in Cannon s Precedents, ...

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Date:	Wed Sep 16 07:01:00 PDT 2009

4431 [lbo-talk] Signs of the times -- rank: 1000

On Sep 16, 2009, at 2:52 AM, SA wrote: > Again - I agree with you, watching TV isn't political act. But when > millions do it, it is the marker of a successful movement. Do we know whether they've expanded their ranks, or are they just talking to themselves? Doug

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4432 [lbo-talk] Signs of the times -- rank: 1000

On Sep 16, 2009, at 1:06 AM, wrobert at uci.edu wrote: > Once again, what is really remarkable about > this organizing is how little was accomplished with so much. I'm reminded of "Sir" Alan Walters observation to me at a Grant's Interest Rate Observer conference back in 1994 - the most lasting achievement of Thatcherism was her transformation of the Labour Party. If the left-liberals would spend half as much time pressing Obama on health care and Afghanistan as they do on ob ...

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Date:	Wed Sep 16 04:34:05 PDT 2009

4433 [lbo-talk] Obama calls Kanye a jackass -- rank: 1000

And TMZ has audio! http://www.tmz.com/2009/09/15/obama-calls-kanye-a-jackass/

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Date:	Tue Sep 15 13:17:40 PDT 2009

4434 [lbo-talk] Krugman @ EPI -- rank: 1000

Didn't Paul Krugman once denounce the Economic Policy Institute as a bunch of protectionist hacks? Now he's appearing on a panel at their HQ! Along with list alum J. Bradford DeLong. Generating a Robust Recovery A forum featuring Rep. Rosa DeLauro, Paul Krugman and Geoff Garin Wednesday, September 30, 2009 2:00 pm to 4:30 pm Officially, the Great Recession may be coming to an end, but it will leave in its wake historically high unemployment and a host of other serious economic problems. How ...

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Date:	Tue Sep 15 12:53:46 PDT 2009

4435 [lbo-talk] lobbyists writing health bill -- rank: 1000

<http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=BB58B4A7-18FE-70B2-A84F6B83ED4041D6 > Revolving door for health care aides By: Manu Raju September 15, 2009 04:42 AM EST Some of the most influential aides in the closed-door Senate Finance Committee negotiations over health care reform have ties to interests that would be directly affected by the legislation. Before she was hired last year as senior counsel to Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.), Liz Fowler worked as a highly pai ...

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Date:	Tue Sep 15 08:47:53 PDT 2009

4436 [lbo-talk] LF: talking to kids about war -- rank: 1000

<http://babble.com/why-fighting-talk-kids-war/> Why Are We Fighting? How to talk to kids about war. BY LIZA FEATHERSTONE September 14, 2009 At breakfast, my three-year-old, Ivan, examines the front page of the newspaper: a picture of U.S. troops in Iraq, brandishing guns. "What's this, Mommy?" he asks. I say, "It's a picture of war. People are fighting. It's a bad situation." He studies the picture for a while, and points to the soldiers' faces. "But these are ...

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4437 [lbo-talk] Signs of the times -- rank: 1000

On Sep 14, 2009, at 10:54 PM, SA wrote: > Sure it's a movement. How do you think they got that kind of media > access and financial power? By creating a strong conservative > movement. You can bring the Fox to cable but you can't make people > watch it. If a left-wing Fox News materialized - especially one as > far left as Fox is far right - no one would watch it. Compare > Olbermann/Maddow's ratings to O'Reilly's. But O'Reilly is much more fun to watch than Maddow and esp Olbe ...

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Date:	Tue Sep 15 08:13:27 PDT 2009

4438 [lbo-talk] left aiding right -- rank: 1000

On Sep 14, 2009, at 5:00 PM, Somebody Somebody wrote: > Well, worker's incomes went significantly up under Clinton for the > first time in a generation. And this under a neo-liberal, welfare > cutting administration that failed to achieve a substantial > progressive legacy. Contrast this with the declining fortunes that > Americans subsequently dealt with under Bush. > > It's not implausible to suggest that an economic recovery under a > Democratic president, even a neo-l ...

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Date:	Mon Sep 14 14:13:48 PDT 2009

4439 [lbo-talk] Signs of the times -- rank: 1000

On Sep 14, 2009, at 4:49 PM, Miles Jackson wrote: > I don't follow your argument. Teabaggers are a small minority of > the working class people in the U. S. How is ridicule of that > right-wing, extremist minority group "deepseated contempt for > working class people"? It's not even clear how many are "working class." I suspect a lot are what we used to call petit bourgeois.

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Date:	Mon Sep 14 13:57:34 PDT 2009

4440 [lbo-talk] left aiding right -- rank: 1000

On Sep 14, 2009, at 2:49 PM, Dennis Claxton wrote: > At 11:38 AM 9/14/2009, c b wrote: > > >> CB: If all you do is criticize and not praise the good things, then >> yeah , you are leaning ultra-left and onesided in your analysis. >> Sectarian , too. > > > > What are the good things? You know, all those good things. Haven't you been reading Peoples Weekly World?

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