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4351 [lbo-talk] Polanski -- rank: 1000

On Sep 29, 2009, at 5:31 PM, Dennis Claxton wrote: > There's nothing so-called about it. Polanski pleaded guilty and the > facts are hardly in dispute. I don't get the cultural elite's reaction. So it's not under dispute that the guy drugged and raped a 13-year-old girl, right? Call me a hardass, but that sort of thing deserves some serious time. Running off to Paris for 35 years is hardly a substitute. Am I wrong? Doug

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Date:	Tue Sep 29 15:25:12 PDT 2009

4352 [lbo-talk] the European Left, they dead -- rank: 1000

On Sep 29, 2009, at 9:30 AM, Eric Beck wrote: > I notice our Europhilic listmates have been quiet about German > election results. It was hardly a rout for the right. The CDU has one of its worst showings ever. The combined vote of the Greens and the Left Party were up, and well over 20%. Merkel is unlikely to do anything radical, either, to the disappointment of the FDP and their American cheerleaders. I agree that one shouldn't romanticize Europe, but this is hardly the coming of th ...

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Date:	Tue Sep 29 10:33:55 PDT 2009

4353 [lbo-talk] This has the making of some great headlines.... -- rank: 1000

On Sep 29, 2009, at 11:05 AM, 123hop at comcast.net wrote: > Madonna to marry Jesus. Wow. As Madonna once said to an audience (quoted in the Financial Times, of all places): "Fuck you, motherfuckers!" Who knew Jesus would become one of those?!

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Date:	Tue Sep 29 09:54:52 PDT 2009

4354 [lbo-talk] Univ of Calif contemplates privatizing itself -- rank: 1000

On Sep 28, 2009, at 10:05 PM, John Gulick wrote: > Did you not make the same argument in the waning months of 2008, > qualified by the remark that > neo-liberalism's successor was yet to be born (you nominated green > Keynesianism as one possibility)? > Nature abhors a vacuum I guess. Yeah, I thought that for a while. I don't anymore. Though circs can always change. Still, I'm amazed by the ideological and financial resilience of the thing.

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Date:	Mon Sep 28 19:38:21 PDT 2009

4355 [lbo-talk] Let them eat Prozac (was: let's argue about thecauseofmental illness -- rank: 1000

On Sep 28, 2009, at 9:41 PM, shag carpet bomb wrote: > meanwhile, I don't understand why you haven't employed Dragon and > other software that will allow you to listen to the writing. For reasons similar to making fun of the idea of running radical candidates for city councils, I suspect.

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Date:	Mon Sep 28 19:02:47 PDT 2009

4356 [lbo-talk] Univ of Calif contemplates privatizing itself -- rank: 1000

[I'm becoming convinced that people who think that neoliberalism died from the financial crisis should do a serious rethink.] <http://beta.dailybruin.com/articles/2009/9/28/uc-debates-going- private/> UC forms commission to discuss going private By Ravi Doshi Sept. 28, 2009 at 4:42 a.m. The University of California system is often considered one of the best systems of higher public education in the United States. In addition to producing nearly 55,000 graduates and seven percent of Ph.D ...

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Date:	Mon Sep 28 18:57:15 PDT 2009

4357 [lbo-talk] The State (Was: Ralph loves the nice plutocrats) -- rank: 1000

On Sep 28, 2009, at 7:31 PM, SA wrote: > The state must always enforce capitalist property laws? What if "the > state" decides it likes non-capitalist laws better? A revolutionary state could decide that. But given capitalist domination of the campaign finance and lobbying systems, control of the media, and the pervasive "common sense" of the bourgeois order, it's not likely to depart from capitalist laws any time soon.

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Date:	Mon Sep 28 17:51:37 PDT 2009

4358 [lbo-talk] GOP luvs public option for property, especially Trent Lott's -- rank: 1000

<http://firedoglake.com/2009/09/23/gop-favors-public-option-for-property-not-people/ > GOP Favors Public Option for Property, Not People By: David Cay Johnston Wednesday September 23, 2009 12:01 pm photo by BNItaly Atop the front page of the New York Times today is a color photo of Georgia homes flooded up to their rafters, an image that illustrates how when it comes to insurance our Congress applies two standards, separate and unequal, one for property and a lesser one for people. Unli ...

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Date:	Mon Sep 28 14:18:02 PDT 2009

4359 [lbo-talk] Ace The Fug -- rank: 1000

On Sep 28, 2009, at 4:37 PM, Dennis Perrin wrote: >> Me, I'm always up for a funny Alex Cockburn story -- > > Well, I have several AC tales, but on reflection, I don't know how > keen our gracious host is on this kind of anecdote. I think we have > a general idea of who AC is. Fine with me, just as long as it's not actionable. Doug

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Date:	Mon Sep 28 14:09:00 PDT 2009

4360 [lbo-talk] Fletcher on ACORN -- rank: 1000

On Sep 28, 2009, at 3:04 PM, Chuck Grimes wrote: > What can I say? I've been there, been stuck in meetings trying to > defend > the indefensible, so the whole ACORN thing pissed me off. Well yeah, it sucks, but on the other hand, if you know the right has you in its crosshairs, you don't offer people counsel on how to run a brothel and import underage girls to staff it. It's just imprudent. Especially after the founder's brother makes off with $1 million and you sweep the scandal un ...

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Date:	Mon Sep 28 12:28:00 PDT 2009

4361 [lbo-talk] Surrender! -- rank: 1000

On Sep 28, 2009, at 12:30 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: > The modern equivalent of Greek Fate is the Idea of Progress as > pushed, on this list, by Doug and Michael Pollack. That's "Pollak," but no matter. Still, what the hell are you talking about?

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Date:	Mon Sep 28 09:48:02 PDT 2009

4362 [lbo-talk] Dems raking in the Wall Street cash -- rank: 1000

<http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=FDEBB832-18FE-70B2-A847D4ACAC03B7D1 > Wall Street money rains on Schumer By: Victoria McGrane and Lisa Lerer September 28, 2009 04:34 AM EST Wall Street has showered nearly $11 million on the Senate since the beginning of the year, and more than 15 percent of it has gone to a single senator: Democrat Chuck Schumer of New York. Schumer s $1.65 million take from the financial services industry is nearly twice that of any other senator's and m ...

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Date:	Mon Sep 28 08:01:10 PDT 2009

4363 [lbo-talk] Let them eat Prozac (was: let's argue about the cause ofmental illness -- rank: 1000

On Sep 27, 2009, at 6:26 PM, shag carpet bomb wrote: > you should probably try reading the source of the quotes carrol. you > go on a needless rant that has little to do with what Healey is > writing about and why. the only klewbyfour i'll throw your way is > that Healey is a psychiatrist who did his research on seratonin > reuptake and thinks it would be a bad thing were SSRIs demonized b/c > they are addictive. It's amazing that Carrol's fatalism even extends to *treatments* ...

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Date:	Sun Sep 27 15:37:30 PDT 2009

4364 [lbo-talk] The State (Was: Ralph loves the nice plutocrats) -- rank: 1000

On Sep 27, 2009, at 1:23 PM, c b wrote: > The bourgeoisie were not the ruling classes in them; the working > classes were. That's pretty funny, Charles. First, Marx really said next to nothing about a future regime, so I can't imagine what a "classically Marxist regime" would be. And second, the working class ruled the USSR? I'm far from being anti-Soviet, but that's a ludicrous claim. Doug

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Date:	Sun Sep 27 10:32:38 PDT 2009

4365 [lbo-talk] Surrender! -- rank: 1000

On Sep 26, 2009, at 10:58 PM, Dennis Perrin wrote: > Even if there was the kind of grassroots action that rocked the > streets in the 1880s, 1910s or 1930s, they'd be mowed down > unceremoniously They *were* mowed down unceremoniously in the late 19th century. Didn't really stop them, despite worse violence than in Tsarist Russia. I doubt that kids with puppets would show the same tenacity. Not that I would, either. Doug

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