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436 [lbo-talk] Sam Gindin interview -- rank: 1000

> Excellent interview with Sam Gindin on the last Behind the News. It's transcribed here: http://lbo-news.com/2012/06/18/sam-gindin-on-the-crisis-in-labor/

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Date:	Tue Jun 19 14:00:18 PDT 2012

437 [lbo-talk] No private schools in Finland -- rank: 1000

On Jun 19, 2012, at 6:34 AM, John Wesley wrote: > Ironically, it appears that those countries with a state supported, "established" church (the UK and Scandinavia as examples) tend to manifest very little of the religious extremism seen in the US. Long ago, Alex Cockburn argued that a state religion was like an inoculation against belief. Doug

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Date:	Tue Jun 19 05:02:43 PDT 2012

438 [lbo-talk] Sympathy strikes for Teamster sanitation workers -- rank: 1000

On Jun 18, 2012, at 11:23 PM, Quinn Hechtkopf wrote: > The entire goal is to > draw people to townhall meetings to use consensus organizing against the 1% > (occupy wall st style). What's that mean exactly? What's the goal? If SEIU is involved, how compelling can it be? Doug

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Date:	Mon Jun 18 20:28:42 PDT 2012

439 [lbo-talk] where is behind the news? -- rank: 1000

Moved to noon on Thursdays. Check here: feed://shout.lbo-talk.org/lbo/radio-feed.php On Jun 16, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Chuck Grimes wrote: > What's with KPFA? 10:00a Saturday and there is some shit about black > fathers. ... > > CG > ___________________________________ > http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/mailman/listinfo/lbo-talk

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sat Jun 16 10:52:24 PDT 2012

440 [lbo-talk] Credit where due -- rank: 1000

Damn, I found this on Facebook months ago, thanks to a friend who hails from East Germany. Doug

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Date:	Fri Jun 15 11:04:08 PDT 2012

441 [lbo-talk] Droning on: the rise of the machines -- rank: 1000

On Jun 13, 2012, at 2:55 PM, Wojtek S wrote: > I do not understand this whole brouhaha about drones. How are > they different than sending in the marines? It seems that this whole > brouhaha hinges more on Luddite sentiments than on a reasoned > opposition to war as such. Call me old-fashioned but there's something cowardly about killing people by remote control. If you're going to be a homicidal imperialist, you should at least have the balls to do your killing in person. Doug

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Date:	Wed Jun 13 12:05:13 PDT 2012

442 [lbo-talk] A Critical Review of David Graeber's Debt -- rank: 1000

On Jun 12, 2012, at 2:34 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: > A side point. This attitude towards the state does, eventually if not > sooner, cripple anarchist politics. But the empirical fact remains that > anarchists seem better than Marxists in _getting something started_. Totally agree with this. They're great at organizing movements and actions. I'm not sure they could organize a society. Doug

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Date:	Tue Jun 12 11:56:18 PDT 2012

443 [lbo-talk] A Critical Review of David Graeber's Debt -- rank: 1000

On Jun 12, 2012, at 1:17 PM, Wojtek S wrote: > Doug: "about the choices that individuals make and not about the > state-capital partnership in making it happen." > > [WS:] What is wrong with that? I'd rather live in state-capital > partnership created cities than in individual choice created slums. > In fact, slums is what we get when the state withdraws from urban > development, which is left solely to individual initiative. Well, not exactly. Much of central Bro ...

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Date:	Tue Jun 12 11:27:31 PDT 2012

444 [lbo-talk] Vouchers Unspoken, Romney Hails School Choice -- rank: 1000

On Jun 12, 2012, at 1:00 PM, Wojtek S wrote: > I cannot believe I would say it, but Romney's position on > education is superior to that of Obama and the Democrat party. The > market-schmarket talk is obnoxious, to be sure, but he seems to be > moving away from federally imposed 'accountability' measures tied to > standardized tests scores. That makes it easier for me to accept the > prospect of Romney 2012, which now seems very likely. His notion that poor city kids could cr ...

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Date:	Tue Jun 12 10:06:42 PDT 2012

445 [lbo-talk] A Critical Review of David Graeber's Debt -- rank: 1000

On Jun 12, 2012, at 11:52 AM, Tayssir John Gabbour wrote: > On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote: >> His - I won't call it a failure because he doesn't even seem interested in trying to make the case - lack of interest in investigating capitalism as a social system with some unique characteristics really seems to come from the anarchist obsession with the state above all else. So much of the Occupy movement is - was? - about space and state b ...

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Date:	Tue Jun 12 09:05:07 PDT 2012

446 [lbo-talk] A Critical Review of David Graeber's Debt -- rank: 1000

On Jun 12, 2012, at 11:32 AM, Angelus Novus wrote: > What irks me about the really existing anti-gentrification movement is how culturalized the discourse is: basically lamenting that the "wrong" people are moving into the neighborhood, i.e. "hipsters" or "students" or Swabians moving in and displacing Turks and leftists. > > I've been guilty of some of this culturalism -- I'm always up for bashing Southern Germany! -- but what sticks in my craw about this ...

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Date:	Tue Jun 12 08:44:35 PDT 2012

447 [lbo-talk] A Critical Review of David Graeber's Debt -- rank: 1000

On Jun 12, 2012, at 11:06 AM, Angelus Novus wrote: > Doug wrote: > >> Funny: "the ivory league university Yale." > > Oh shit, I'm mortified! > > Being my own proofreader sucks. I've fixed it now. It's hilarious. University founded by slavers. Ivory tower. Works on multiple levels. Doug

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Date:	Tue Jun 12 08:26:29 PDT 2012

448 [lbo-talk] A Critical Review of David Graeber's Debt -- rank: 1000

On Jun 12, 2012, at 6:26 AM, Angelus Novus wrote: > "Graeber does not recognize what money and credit mean in pre-capitalist > societies, what distinguishes them from each other. He works with > trans-historical phenomena, without raising questions as to their > historical-social form. This is a trait he shares with the economic > mainstream that he otherwise criticizes. Graeber writes that systems of credit and accounting are as old as civilization itself. He admits > ...

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Date:	Tue Jun 12 05:49:46 PDT 2012

449 [lbo-talk] Twililght of the Elites -- rank: 1000

On Jun 8, 2012, at 1:45 PM, Carl G. Estabrook wrote: > That reminds of those who argued in the '90s that if we could just get the Right People together for a week or so on Martha's Vineyard, we could work this whole thing out... Wait a minute - that was Adolph Reed's caricature of elite liberals. I don't believe anyone has ever confessed that as his or her belief! Doug

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Date:	Fri Jun 8 10:54:19 PDT 2012

450 [lbo-talk] Karl Rove's plan -- rank: 1000

On Jun 7, 2012, at 3:45 PM, ken hanly wrote: > You may not like that term but are these people not those chastised by you recently? Not the workers. The structure of unions and their fathead leaders.

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Date:	Thu Jun 7 12:51:35 PDT 2012