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4276 [lbo-talk] Platypus: what we are, what we do, and why -- rank: 1000

On Apr 9, 2010, at 2:06 PM, Christopher Cutrone wrote: > Except there's no smear: Ali said what I said he said. It may be to > some, as Henwood says, uncontroversial, but I think what Ali said > should be treated as controversial. That's my point, to not accept > it as uncontroversial (on the "Left"). Perhaps saying "lie" was too > strong, because it implies intentional falsehood, but innuendo > doesn't quite capture the problem, either. No, he didn't say wh ...

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Date:	Fri Apr 9 13:08:11 PDT 2010

4277 [lbo-talk] Platypus: what we are, what we do, and why -- rank: 1000

On Apr 9, 2010, at 2:14 PM, Dennis Claxton wrote: > At 11:06 AM 4/9/2010, Christopher Cutrone wrote: > > >> Ali said what I said he said. > > > How about clearing things up with a transcript? Or give us exactly > where he said it on the taped interview. Listen to the part of the interview from about 54:00 to 1:02:00. You'll hear that CC's rendition of what Tariq said was, to put it politely, extremely tendentious. Doug

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Date:	Fri Apr 9 12:49:16 PDT 2010

4278 [lbo-talk] drones -- rank: 1000

Chris Cutrone: > Even the hint of apologetics for Talibanism in places like Pakistan > by reference to drone attacks, etc. By the way, what does this mean? The drone attacks are horrible. You think there's something ok about them? You seem to have some political sympathy for Christopher Hitchens. What do you make of this remark? > If you're actually certain that you're hitting only a concentration > of enemy troops...then it's pretty good because those steel pellets > will go st ...

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Date:	Fri Apr 9 08:46:19 PDT 2010

4279 [lbo-talk] Platypus: what we are, what we do, and why -- rank: 1000

On Apr 9, 2010, at 9:38 AM, Christopher Cutrone wrote: > I publicly interviewed Tariq Ali during the worst period of the Iraq > occupation, and he lied through his teeth, saying that the sectarian- > communalist violence in Iraq, i.e., of the mosque and marketplace > bombings, was not being perpetrated by the Iraqis but by "British > special forces!" Ali had written in the New Left Review that the > Sadrists were somehow progressive by virtue of the fact that their &g ...

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Date:	Fri Apr 9 08:37:56 PDT 2010

4280 [lbo-talk] Platypus: what we are, what we do, and why -- rank: 1000

On Apr 9, 2010, at 9:38 AM, Christopher Cutrone wrote: > publicly interviewed Tariq Ali during the worst period of the Iraq > occupation, and he lied through his teeth, saying that the sectarian- > communalist violence in Iraq, i.e., of the mosque and marketplace > bombings, was not being perpetrated by the Iraqis but by "British > special forces!" This did not sound at all like Tariq Ali to me - I've interviewed him many times and know him reasonably well. So I asked ...

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Date:	Fri Apr 9 07:42:20 PDT 2010

4281 [lbo-talk] women can drill too -- rank: 1000

<http://politicalwire.com/archives/2010/04/08/quote_of_the_day.html> April 08, 2010 Quote of the Day "I knew that we'd be buddies when I met her when she said, 'Drill here, drill now.' And then I replied, 'Drill, baby, drill' and then we both said, 'You betcha!'" -- Sarah Palin, quoted by the Wall Street Journal, recalling a previous meeting with Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN).

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Date:	Fri Apr 9 07:39:35 PDT 2010

4282 [lbo-talk] Platypus: what we are, what we do, and why -- rank: 1000

On Apr 9, 2010, at 10:01 AM, JAMES Heartfield wrote: > Chris C.: > > "More than 50 years of "Third World" so-called "revolutionary" > movements > have failed to produce any emancipatory results whatsoever" > > Is that something of an overstatement? Having visited both the South > Africa > and the West Bank and Gaza, I was very impressed with what people > had done > there in straitened circumstances. I hear that Vietnam is quite > ...

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Date:	Fri Apr 9 07:13:12 PDT 2010

4283 [lbo-talk] Demographic composition of the Tea Party -- rank: 1000

On Apr 9, 2010, at 12:24 AM, Joanna wrote: > Doug writes: > > "Poor Erik Erikson. When he coined it, it actually meant something. " > > What did it mean? As I recall, and it's been a long long time, the choice of "lifestyle" was a way to join one's individual psychology to the broader society. Through a lifestyle, one affiliated with a subculture that matched one's internal predilections - kind of like Freud's ego ideal, which was (unconsciously) chosen in ...

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Date:	Fri Apr 9 06:04:02 PDT 2010

4284 [lbo-talk] Platypus: what we are, what we do, and why -- rank: 1000

Actually, on further thought, I'm not sure I have some "principled" opposition to imperialism, in some rigid, a priori sense. It does seem to be an empirical fact, however, that every U.S. military intervention has been evil. Doug

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Date:	Thu Apr 8 11:10:24 PDT 2010

4285 [lbo-talk] Platypus: what we are, what we do, and why -- rank: 1000

On Apr 8, 2010, at 1:10 PM, SA wrote: > But the point is that for the majority of the South's population, it > wasn't one country. It was one group of states attacking another > group of states. It was only called a Civil War in the North. Well of course the South would say that. But I still don't see how one can call a central government's response to secession by a region that joined the nation by choice, not conquest, imperialism in the same sense as bombing a foreign country and/ ...

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Date:	Thu Apr 8 10:32:04 PDT 2010

4286 [lbo-talk] Platypus: what we are, what we do, and why -- rank: 1000

On Apr 8, 2010, at 12:35 PM, Joseph Catron wrote: > nd for all I know, you might also agree with the M-E line on the > Mexican-American War. My interest here is the way these positions > differ > from those held by anti-imperialists of the Marxist left today. A civil war isn't really an imperialist adventure. The U.S. was one country when the south seceded, and it became one country once again after 1865. That's not much like bombing Afghanistan. Doug

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Date:	Thu Apr 8 09:55:28 PDT 2010

4287 [lbo-talk] P.S. On Marx on the American Civil War: -- rank: 1000

On Apr 8, 2010, at 12:35 PM, James Heartfield wrote: > It would be wrong to say that the Jim Crow laws in any way qualified > the advance that the northern victory in the Civil War represented, > any more than Stalin's reaction qualified the 1917 revolution. Jim > Crow was the reaction against the advances made in the first years > of the reconstruction, and the latter is not reducible to the forme There was a great deal of support for Jim Crow among northern capitalists, no? Dou ...

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Date:	Thu Apr 8 09:50:20 PDT 2010

4288 [lbo-talk] the education conspiracy -- rank: 1000

On Apr 8, 2010, at 11:37 AM, Billy O'Connor wrote: >> People often dismiss those of us who are concerned about the way in >> which >> public education is being dismantled as nutty conspiracy theorists. > > It's amazing that you can be called "nutty" when you point out that > privitization is a big plank in both major American political parties' > platforms. Speaking of which, my radio guest this evening is Diane Ravitch. Doug

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Date:	Thu Apr 8 08:47:18 PDT 2010

4289 [lbo-talk] great moments in ledes -- rank: 1000

The opening sentence of a press release from a right-wing PR shop: "Obama's boss, George Soros[,] discovered his own narcissism at an early age."

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Date:	Thu Apr 8 08:24:30 PDT 2010

4290 [lbo-talk] Demographic composition of the Tea Party -- rank: 1000

On Apr 7, 2010, at 9:59 PM, Joanna wrote: > ...and also "lifestyle," please, please, please, please, please Poor Erik Erikson. When he coined it, it actually meant something.

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Date:	Thu Apr 8 08:22:20 PDT 2010