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4186 [lbo-talk] Thoughts on the Tea Party (and why the Left is -- rank: 1000

On Apr 22, 2010, at 7:29 AM, shag carpet bomb wrote: > i say this because we've had this conversation before and, as it > turned out, I am one of the few people who did live through economic > hardship having grown up in a town where, at one time, there were > literally no jobs to be had and I slept in my $200 Ford Pinto. Adorno has a great aphorism in Minima Moralia about how exclusion breeds not resistance but a desire to belong. I haven't posted it in over 4 years, so why not no ...

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4187 [lbo-talk] Thoughts on the Tea Party (and why the Left is Dead) -- rank: 1000

On Apr 21, 2010, at 11:08 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: > The Great Depression lasted long enough, continuously, that > slight improvements in conditions could generate the hope and the > rising > expectations that are so vital to left movements . The recovery from 1933 to 1937 was very powerful. The unemployment rate fell from over 25% to around 11%, and GDP rose by 43% (or over 9% a year), surpassing the 1929 peak in 1936. And, as Bhaskar just pointed out, the politically interesting st ...

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Date:	Thu Apr 22 06:21:04 PDT 2010

4188 [lbo-talk] Thoughts on the Tea Party (and why the Left is Dead) -- rank: 1000

On Apr 21, 2010, at 9:28 PM, Joseph Catron wrote: > Pardon a question from an economic dunce, but how do you square that > with > the New Deal? It's an outlier. 25% unemployment, and the Golden Age of the USSR. You should never generalize from outliers. Doug

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4189 [lbo-talk] Thoughts on the Tea Party (and why the Left is Dead) -- rank: 1000

On Apr 21, 2010, at 5:45 PM, Michael Perelman wrote: > The smash up cannot give progressives some gift on the platter -- > only an > opportunity, which is more likely to pay off with prior organization > and a > clear program. No. Economic crisis is the opposite of fertile soil. It's poisonous.

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4190 [lbo-talk] Burger campaigns on being White House patsy -- rank: 1000

<http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0410/SEIUs_Burger_campaigns_on_White_House_ties.html?showall > SEIU's Burger campaigns on White House ties [by Ben Smith] The departing president of the Service Employees International Union -- the country's biggest union, and arguably its most powerful independent political organization -- wrote last week that leaders should take choose a replacement who can maintain his tight relationships with the Obama administration and other elected officia ...

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4191 [lbo-talk] Thoughts on the Tea Party (and why the Left is Dead) -- rank: 1000

On Apr 21, 2010, at 12:41 PM, Somebody Somebody wrote: > And interestingly, this seems to be broadly the case internationally > as well. There are virtually no countries where the left has > benefited from the crisis. Not even in Latin America. Granted, > recessions often aid the right, but it's noteworthy that no left- > wing reformers have emerged out of the rubble of the global meltdown. It's very interesting, isn't it? Further proof that all those left catastrophists who'd ho ...

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4192 [lbo-talk] Remember the populist Gephardt? He lobbies for Goldman. -- rank: 1000

<http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0410/36118.html> Dems haunted by corporate ties By: Jonathan Allen and Eamon Javers April 21, 2010 04:29 AM EDT President Barack Obama and congressional Democrats are promising a climactic clash with Wall Street, but there s a complication in their battle plan: The Democratic Party is closer to corporate America and to Wall Street in particular than many Democrats would care to admit. Former White House counsel Greg Craig has just signed on as a ...

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Date:	Wed Apr 21 08:22:14 PDT 2010

4193 [lbo-talk] Lindsey Graham outed by right-wing nuts -- rank: 1000

Another name to add to the right-wing body count? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/20/lindsey-graham-gay-conser_n_544554.html

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4194 [lbo-talk] Thoughts on the Tea Party -- rank: 1000

On Apr 20, 2010, at 1:35 PM, Chip Berlet wrote: > I find much of the conversation on this topic here at LBO elitist, > glib, > and frankly disgustingly over-privileged and uncaring about the real > suffereing of others in the real world. Forgive me if I choose to not > participate any longer. Enjoy your armchair pontificating. Oh please. What a bunch of grandiose high-horsery. There's a reason that the likes of the Ford Foundation, that bastion of the common folk, likes to fund ...

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Date:	Tue Apr 20 10:53:25 PDT 2010

4195 [lbo-talk] Thoughts on the Tea Party -- rank: 1000

On Apr 20, 2010, at 9:04 AM, Chip Berlet wrote: > None of this is new. It follows certain patterns. There are at > least 20 books on the topic since 1980 concerning the U.S. and > Europe. The terms used include "Radical Center," Middle American > Radicals," the "Revolt from the Middle." Well yeah. Then why all the scare talk about the fascist threat? This is as old as the hills. Doug

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4196 [lbo-talk] Thoughts on the Tea Party -- rank: 1000

On Apr 20, 2010, at 8:35 AM, SA wrote: > The only available data that give a reliable picture of overall SES > are education. And when you look at real Tea Party supporters > (people who say they follow news about the TP and strongly support > it), their education profile as a group mirrors that of households > around the 80+ percentile. Ok, so they're the revolt of the "have somes" and not the "have a lots." The have a lots are doing very nicely. Doug

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Date:	Tue Apr 20 05:45:39 PDT 2010

4197 [lbo-talk] Thoughts on the Tea Party -- rank: 1000

On Apr 19, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Michael Perelman wrote: > I did not mean that they are heavy, but that middle class bears a > disproportionate share. The TP is another chapter in the revolt of the haves.

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4198 [lbo-talk] KVH hearts Nick Clegg and the Lib Dems -- rank: 1000

Is there any truth to this?

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4199 [lbo-talk] agricultural productivity -- rank: 1000

On Apr 19, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Sean Andrews wrote: > Also, I'd say that there is a real problem with saying this is > conservative and then saying that is necessarily a bad thing. When > people are interested in preserving a way of life precisely because it > allows them to live I don't know how I can argue that them sloughing > it off will inevitably produce more freedom. When an indigenous > community sees what the introduction of capitalist social relations > did for a n ...

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Date:	Mon Apr 19 08:37:53 PDT 2010

4200 [lbo-talk] Obama prosecutes whistleblowers, torturers run free -- rank: 1000

<http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/04/16/prosecutions/index.html > What the whistleblower prosecution says about the Obama DOJ BY GLENN GREENWALD (updated below) The more I think and read about the Obama DOJ's prosecution of NSA whistleblower Thomas Drake, the more I think this might actually be one of the worst steps the Obama administration has taken yet, if not the single worst step -- and that's obviously saying a lot. During the Bush years, in the wake of the ...

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