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3991 [lbo-talk] INSTANT POPULISM: A short history of populism old and new -- rank: 1000

On Dec 1, 2010, at 4:07 PM, Max Sawicky wrote: > Ditto the KKK. > > > On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Carrol Cox <cbcox at ilstu.edu> wrote: > >> >> ====== >> >> I haven't read the article, but if you can call the New Deal populist, then >> you can call anything populist; it makes the word useless. The word is kind of useless - you can plug just about anything into it. The basic mechanism is dividing society into good guys and bad guys - produc ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Dec 1 13:19:43 PST 2010

3992 [lbo-talk] On Wikileaks -- rank: 1000

On Dec 1, 2010, at 3:01 PM, Julio Huato wrote: > And those idiots in the government acting as if they need to respond > to this as if it were some sort of a crisis. They should just chill > out. Who cares? What really did you learn from these leaks that you didn't already know? Officialdom is annoyed because they don't like having their dirty laundry aired in public. But these are the same people who think a demonstration with a few broken windows is an act of almost revolutionary vio ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Dec 1 12:16:04 PST 2010

3993 [lbo-talk] On Wikileaks -- rank: 1000

On Dec 1, 2010, at 1:07 PM, lbo83235 wrote: > The impact of the leaks will occur on two levels. The immediate, concrete impact will not be on large numbers of people (as Carrol rightly understands), but (what he leaves out) on small numbers of the elite who occupy key positions of power - people who *do* pay attention to the kind of information contained in the leaks, because it concretely affects their power / opportunity / prestige within the circles they inhabit. At that level, the leaks w ...

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Date:	Wed Dec 1 10:22:46 PST 2010

3994 [lbo-talk] On Wikileaks -- rank: 1000

On Dec 1, 2010, at 12:55 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: > Doug Henwood: I thought it was kind of entertaining to learn that Hillary > Clinton wanted Ban-ki Moon's credit card numbers. > > I think you have me there. At least the repetition here of the factoid gave > me a chuckle -- which seems to be definite proof in practice of > entertainment worth. A friend of mine with good UN connections told me last night that Ban-ki Moon is widely regarded as a U.S. stooge. But you can't even trus ...

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Date:	Wed Dec 1 10:00:49 PST 2010

3995 [lbo-talk] On Wikileaks -- rank: 1000

On Dec 1, 2010, at 12:08 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: > Personally, I am wholly uninterested in any of the leaks. The U.S. state is > a central capitalist power, and a human future depends on its destruction in > the not too-distant future. Any u.s. president is a war criminal de facto by > taking the oath of office. So I'm only interested in information which is > either of immediate entertainment worth or seriously contributes to > critique. These leaks are neither. I thought it was ...

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Date:	Wed Dec 1 09:20:47 PST 2010

3996 [lbo-talk] Austerity In The Face Of Weakness -- rank: 1000

On Sep 1, 2010, at 12:13 AM, Patrick Bond wrote: > There was much confusion in the ranks of some Marxists (names available upon request) who believed that a revival of superficial profitability (failing to discount financial fluff) from the mid-1980s through 2007 meant there was no 'crisis' in the Marxian sense. Phew, did they get that wrong. If that was a crisis and this is a crisis, then the word has lost all its meaning. Doug

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Date:	Tue Aug 31 21:33:24 PDT 2010

3997 [lbo-talk] Austerity In The Face Of Weakness -- rank: 1000

On Sep 1, 2010, at 12:13 AM, Patrick Bond wrote: > There was much confusion in the ranks of some Marxists (names available upon request) who believed that a revival of superficial profitability (failing to discount financial fluff) from the mid-1980s through 2007 meant there was no 'crisis' in the Marxian sense. Phew, did they get that wrong. Yeah, nothing important happened during that quarter century. All an illusion. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Aug 31 21:21:02 PDT 2010

3998 [lbo-talk] tea party numbers -- rank: 1000

On Sep 1, 2010, at 12:07 AM, Chip Berlet wrote: > Glib trivialization is beneath you. Really, Chip. You think the Tea Party is responsible for the Reps 10-point lead in the generic Congressional ballot? Can't you admit that the Obama admin is widely perceived as a failure, for a broad variety of reasons? The health bill is deeply disliked. Obama is continuing two unpopular wars. He's devoted himself to pleasing Wall Street. But it's all the TP? Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Aug 31 21:20:15 PDT 2010

3999 [lbo-talk] tea party numbers -- rank: 1000

On Aug 31, 2010, at 9:32 PM, Chip Berlet wrote: > This figure is about 25% of the other counts. Bad data. Bad analysis. > > But what matters is how the roughly 270,000 are being mobilized into a get out the vote campaign for Republicans. > > Check out he Gallup poll on falling Dem ratings. The TP did this? I thought it was 10% unemployment. Doug

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Date:	Tue Aug 31 20:58:04 PDT 2010

4000 [lbo-talk] spam headline of the week -- rank: 1000

Reach further into her wet grotto

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Date:	Tue Aug 31 20:57:22 PDT 2010

4001 [lbo-talk] Austerity In The Face Of Weakness -- rank: 1000

On Aug 31, 2010, at 8:15 PM, Julio Huato wrote: > I'm not sure I understand why the profit rate would be irrelevant. It > seems to me that it's exactly the opposite. The profit rate is the > rate at which capital expands itself. Not necessarily. It's the return on past investment. That return can be reinvested, hoarded, or consumed. Doug

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Date:	Tue Aug 31 20:56:29 PDT 2010

4002 [lbo-talk] so . . . -- rank: 1000

On Aug 31, 2010, at 6:08 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: > Charles has been a valuable member of this e-list in the past. If/when > the CPUSA ends its sevile relationship to the DP Charles may once again > have something to say. As would be the case if he individually freed > himself from the necessity to serve the reactionary administration now > in power. Until then the best you can do is filter or automatically > delete his posts. I think he should be allowed to stay on the list as a ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Aug 31 20:55:09 PDT 2010

4003 [lbo-talk] The tax deductibility of debt -- rank: 1000

On Aug 31, 2010, at 6:28 PM, Max Sawicky wrote: > I meant equity investment like borrowing is used for capital investment. Rarely, actually. Equity is used to cash out founding investors, etc. It has little to do with funding capex. Doug

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Date:	Tue Aug 31 20:52:56 PDT 2010

4004 [lbo-talk] The tax deductibility of debt -- rank: 1000

On Aug 31, 2010, at 5:12 PM, Max Sawicky wrote: > For a business you could say interest is taxed to the recipient, so taxation > at the corporate level would be double-taxation. By that logic they should > deduct dividends too. Or not deduct interest to have parity with dividends. I think the logic is that interest is a cost of capital, while dividends are a distribution from profits. Doug

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Date:	Tue Aug 31 14:52:05 PDT 2010

4005 [lbo-talk] so . . . -- rank: 1000

On Aug 31, 2010, at 3:03 PM, Jeffrey Fisher wrote: > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote: > >> On Aug 31, 2010, at 1:01 PM, Eric Beck wrote: >> >>> Sensitive guy Robert Jensen thinks we should be very worried about Beck: >> >> I frequently regret not having done a joint review of Jensen's awful porn >> book with Susie Bright. > > Is it really too late??? Yeah, the book is now ancient.

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