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39706 seattle -- rank: 1000

Chuck Grimes wrote: >Well, not quite. Then, this, just in from Max Sawicky: > >"The chaotic diversity of this movement is perfect for the mass >production of radicals. There are a hundred ways into this struggle. >The question will be whether it frays at the other end as well." It's wonderfully diverse. I'm badly overusing the word inspiring, so I'm going to put it on hiatus after hitting <send>, but it really is. >I sure hope so. But to keep it from fraying, a ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Dec 1 00:36:01 PST 1999

39707 Seattle, finally -- rank: 1000

After technical difficulties and a series of other responsibilities and a minor bout with martial law, the report from Seattle is finally up on the LBO website. Follow the link from <http://www.panix.com/~dhenwood/LBO_home.html>. Slogan of the day: "Capitalism? No thanks!/We will burn your fucking banks!" Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Dec 1 00:21:46 PST 1999

39708 New approach to debt called for -- rank: 1000

Chris Burford wrote: >Sounds like the IMF needs to set up a fund to divert capital centrifugally >out to Africa at the same rate that it is flowing in centripetally. > >Sounds like the need for a Tobin tax again! Chris, old comrade, did you recharge your batteries on some sort of vacation? Could you explain how a Tobin tax, a levy on transactions, would fundamentally change the direction of net capital flows? And since most of Africa's creditors are official, not private, would a TT ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Aug 31 18:47:05 PDT 1999

39709 GDP is unscientific and unfair for poor people. -- rank: 1000

Fabian Balardini wrote: >so what is your alternative to handle data then???? > >You are the one who prefer burgeois categories as opposed to marxist >categories derived from them, as you have made clear a while ago on >the exchange on productive labor. This means that you believe >everything is fine with the Keynesian categories and the theoretical >framework behind the measurement of GDP. >I don't understand why you now turn around and accuse Marxist >economists of ' ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Aug 31 15:25:07 PDT 1999

39710 GDP is unscientific and unfair for poor people. -- rank: 1000

Charles Brown wrote: >I think he is saying the economists on this list should critique the >concept of GDP. There are plenty of people who do. This has become fashionable even in liberal-philanthropic circles, like Jonathan Rowe & his Redefining Progress enterprise <http://www.rprogress.org/>, which got a cover in The Atlantic in October 1995 (an issue not on their website). As Wojtek mentioned, the UN's Human Development Report produces an annual quality of life ranking for the ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Aug 31 14:24:23 PDT 1999

39711 GDP is unscientific and unfair for poorpeople. -- rank: 1000

chang wrote: >You are right. GDP is not a perfect measure of economic performance. GDP has >nothing to do with poor people. GDP is for the rich to hoodwink poor people's >eyes. Most "poor people" couldn't tell you what GDP is or what it means, unless poor people in China are different from the ones in the U.S. In fact, most affluent and education people in the U.S. couldn't tell you what GDP is or whether a growth rate of 2% a year was fast or slow. You've made your point; can ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Aug 31 06:58:10 PDT 1999

39712 GDP is unscientific and unfair for poorpeople. -- rank: 1000

chang wrote: >Why economists measure only the production of goods for market and their sale? >Why they don't say anything about the distribution of income or the level of >human happiness? Should they say anything about the living standards of poor >people? Of course they should, but they rarely do, because most people who are "trained" economists are mouthpieces of the bourgeoisie. They believe that competitive markets lead to the efficient allocation of resources, that mo ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Aug 30 16:03:14 PDT 1999

39713 Milosevic's Willing Executioners? -- rank: 1000

Nathan Newman wrote: >It is fascinating how much of the rhetoric on LBO and freerepublic.com are >parallel. They are the two places I know where Stratfor is read with such >sympathy and consistency. How do they feel about the Frankfurt School and Foreign Affairs over there? Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Aug 30 10:07:28 PDT 1999

39714 goodness -- rank: 1000

"Jon Bon Jovi has been very good to me..." - Bill Clinton, Bridgehampton, NY, August 29, 1999 <http://www.pub.whitehouse.gov/uri-res/I2R?urn:pdi://oma.eop.gov.us/19 99/8/30/5.text.1>

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Aug 30 09:40:01 PDT 1999

39715 hotmail's hacked -- rank: 1000

Michael Pollak wrote: >On Mon, 30 Aug 1999, Doug Henwood wrote: > > > [from nettime - it's true!] > >Alas, not anymore. All you get now at http://www.2038.com/hotmail is a >blank page that says "microsoft rules." Which -- if this really did work >just an hour ago -- I daresay they do. Wow. Now it links to a Microsoft "security advisor" page. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Aug 30 09:24:32 PDT 1999

39716 The Heartfield cistern [was Waco and the Lesser of Two Evils] -- rank: 1000

Carl Remick wrote: >The NY Times had not one but two prominent >articles on Sunday -- shown below -- discussing the growing political >force of opposition to genetic engineering. This is a movement the left >should lead, not oppose. I'm not sure what the left is, much less whether it's capable of leading anything, but such a leadership should make it clear that the problem isn't biotechnology in itself, it's capitalists' use of biotechnology. But I'm not optimistic. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Aug 30 09:21:11 PDT 1999

39717 Milosevic's Willing Executioners? -- rank: 1000

Jim heartfield wrote: >Glee is understating it. Thomas Friedman, New York Times, April 23, 1999: "Like it or not, we are at war with the Serbian nation (the Serbs certainly think so), and the stakes have to be very clear: Every week you ravage Kosovo is another decade we will set your country back by pulverizing you. You want 1950? We can do 1950. You want 1389? We can do 1389 too.... Give war a chance...." Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Aug 30 09:05:25 PDT 1999

39718 Milosevic's Willing Executioners? -- rank: 1000

Nathan Newman wrote: >This weekend's NEW YORK TIMES MAGAZINE has a long profile of life in >Belgrade, and amidst the tales of kleptocracy and anomie, the author notes >the absolute apathy of the citizens towards any atrocities that might have >occured. Nathan, how different is that from the apathy most Americans demonstrate towards the atrocities their government perpetrates, on a far greater scale? Or Israelis? Or Brits? Or Russians? And what conclusion do you draw from this? That w ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Aug 30 08:47:59 PDT 1999

39719 Stephen E Philion GDP is unscientific and unfair for poor people. -- rank: 1000

chang wrote: >Why economists all over the world still use Gross Domestic Product >to judge the >economic growth of a certain country and, according to this GDP, >calculate this >country's economic growth rate? GDP measures the production of goods for market and their sale. It's not meant to say anything about the distribution of income or the level of human happiness, though sometimes people take it to be so. What's your point? Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Aug 30 07:06:34 PDT 1999

39720 Waco and the Lesser of Two Evils -- rank: 1000

Jim heartfield wrote: >It makes me laugh to think that you could ever make a bold social >transformation by being careful. We want courage audacity, elan and a >thorough-going willingness to take risks. Careful people don't change >the world. Revolution is a destructive business. Conservatism is not an >approach that will change anything. > >People who are too squeamish to jeopardise the occasional species of >small furry animals are not likely to throw away the received ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Aug 30 07:03:57 PDT 1999