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39511 Sierra Club On It's WTO Activities -- rank: 1000

Brad De Long wrote: >The main complaint from, say, India is that under the WTO the first >world hasn't taken the steps they promised to take to open their >markets--they have followed the letter and not the spirit. That's the position of the Indian government and its business class. That's not the position of the peasants and workers who've filled the streets. Doug

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Date:	Sat Dec 18 10:26:41 PST 1999

39512 Barkley on WTO, etc -- rank: 1000

Rakesh Bhandari wrote: >Barkley would remind you of the rapid growth of the open shop in the US, >esp. in the construction industry. The governing body of the WTO will only >apply sanctions in order to serve the imperialist and geopolitical >interests of its most powerful states, i.e., US threatening to invoke non >application against China in order to win wrench more concessions in the >socalled services, property rights, etc. The governing body of the WTO is extremely unlike ...

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Date:	Sat Dec 18 08:42:01 PST 1999

39513 Sierra Club On It's WTO Activities -- rank: 1000

J. Barkley Rosser, Jr. wrote: > Ah, but the protests by those in LDCs involve >different issues than those that were brought forth >in Seattle, right? I have yet to hear or see anybody >either here or on pen-l answer why it is that all the >issues raised in Seattle favor US interests rather >than LDC interests. Nobody. Period. Let me make this perfectly clear, as some guy used to say. If I were speaking, I'd be speaking very slowly. What you claim were the "issue ...

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Date:	Fri Dec 17 13:00:52 PST 1999

39514 The Problem with Chomsky -- rank: 1000

matt hogan wrote: > Fred Woodworth summed up the problem with Chomsky as follows: > "Chomsky's publishers and introduction writers seem to have >no trouble, at least, weaving a fabric around his speeches and >writing that can glisten with Socialism to Socialists, and glimmer >with Anarchism, in the sight of Anarchists whose vision is dazzled >by celebrity. Leftists, in general, encounter in him a diffuse >leftism, and the great attraction a public figure exerts ...

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Date:	Fri Dec 17 12:05:31 PST 1999

39515 Sierra Club On It's WTO Activities -- rank: 1000

J. Barkley Rosser, Jr. wrote: > "Bad trade policies"? Do these include ending >any exports from the US, or only those from LDCs >identified by the "movement," that is the AFL-CIO >and US-based enviro NGOs? Just who is it who is >to "democratically" decide which are the "good" and >which are the "bad" trade policies? Really, Barkley, where do you get your info from? Hundreds of thousands of people have demonstrated agains ...

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Date:	Fri Dec 17 12:11:22 PST 1999

39516 Great Cockburn/St. Clair piece on Seattle -- rank: 1000

J. Barkley Rosser, Jr. wrote: > Way cooool! I mean, I read on pen-l that after >DAN got back to Evergreen State they had a poll >and decided that the most important thing is Unity! >Wow! I'm impressed!!! This is meant to be ironic, right? Doug

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Date:	Fri Dec 17 12:06:00 PST 1999

39517 WTO, observations -- rank: 1000

J. Barkley Rosser, Jr. wrote: > 1. Why is it that not one single demand made >in Seattle involved any costs for US-based produceres >whereas all the (specific) demands involved increased >costs for producers in LDCs? Au contraire. A major complaint about the WTO among U.S.-based activists is that it can override domestic environmental and labor regulations. Where do you get your information from on this, Barkley? > 2. Is there not a contradiction between wanting >to ...

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Date:	Fri Dec 17 12:01:02 PST 1999

39518 Grumpy lefties and VENONA -- rank: 1000

Charles Brown wrote: >Charles: If we could get a huge fraction of the population to think >of capitalism as organized crime, that would be one giant step for >humankind toward socialist consciousness. Which project conspiracy theories actually hinder, since they imply that there's some virtuous norm from which the conspiracy is an exception - and if we could just let that norm flourish, all would be well. If it weren't for the Bilderbergers, capitalism would be ok, eh? Doug

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Date:	Fri Dec 17 12:08:29 PST 1999

39519 The Problem with Chomsky -- rank: 1000

matt hogan wrote: > Fred Woodworth summed up the problem with Chomsky as follows: > "Chomsky's publishers and introduction writers seem to have >no trouble, at least, weaving a fabric around his speeches and >writing that can glisten with Socialism to Socialists, and glimmer >with Anarchism, in the sight of Anarchists whose vision is dazzled >by celebrity. Leftists, in general, encounter in him a diffuse >leftism, and the great attraction a public figure exerts ...

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Date:	Fri Dec 17 12:05:31 PST 1999

39520 Fwd: Schwartz, "Lenin and Globalization" -- rank: 1000

Christian Science Monitor - [no date] Lenin and globalization Benjamin Schwarz As delegates to the World Trade Organization celebrated, and protesters vilified the global economy, both groups could have used a history lesson. For better or worse, today's international market didn't simply emerge. It was deliberately constructed. Understanding this illuminates both the challenges posed by the world economy and the threats to it. Too many economists and business leaders neglect historian E.H. Carr ...

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Date:	Fri Dec 17 11:31:06 PST 1999

39521 Suck on Hitchens -- rank: 1000

[bounced bec of an attachment] From: "christian a. gregory" <chrisgregory11 at email.msn.com> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 08:43:13 -0600 A page from today's suck, for all you Chris Hitchens fans: http://www.suck.com/daily/99/12/17/nc_index8.html All best Christian

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Date:	Fri Dec 17 11:32:44 PST 1999

39522 state & markets -- rank: 1000

Patrick Bond wrote: >On 16 Dec 99, at 19:00, Doug Henwood wrote: > > ... no World Bank, no Third World industrial > > infrastructure. > > What do other people think? > >I don't think you've been following the World Bank's strategy for >deindustrialising large chunks of the Third World. It really works! Destroying local industry while supporting foreign-owned export-oriented industry. Maybe not in Africa, but certainly there's been plenty of that in Asia and Latin ...

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Date:	Fri Dec 17 11:21:57 PST 1999

39523 thought experiments -- rank: 1000

Pahtoo at aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 12/16/99 8:49:38 PM Pacific Standard Time, >furuhashi.1 at osu.edu writes: > ><< Perhaps anarchists think that > it would have been better had the USSR never existed. > > Yoshie >> > >I'd say there's no "perhaps" about it. Ok, say there was an anarchist revolution in Russia in 1917. What would you have done surrounded by hostile capitalist states that put you under economic blockade and send in armed ...

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Date:	Fri Dec 17 11:13:47 PST 1999

39524 Neither Nix-it or Fix-it -- rank: 1000

Martin Schiller wrote: >How about setting a limited goal - like solidarity with the Police union. Never. Doug

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Date:	Fri Dec 17 11:02:09 PST 1999

39525 Wallerstein on Seattle -- rank: 1000

Wallerstein wrote: >The economic interests of the United States are in direct opposition >to those of both the EU and Japan. They have been in direct >opposition for thirty years now and they will be even more in >opposition during the next thirty. > >During the last thirty years, a period of global economic stagnation >- and therefore of global high unemployment and primacy of financial >speculation as a mode on ensuring profits - the Triad powers have >been in a stru ...

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Date:	Fri Dec 17 09:33:35 PST 1999