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376 [lbo-talk] Occupy Oakland reports and pics -- rank: 1000

On May 2, 2012, at 4:50 PM, c b wrote: > I think there are stats that most people in prison or a major fraction > are for non-violent crimes , like drug possession. Not true, really. Less than 20% of state prisoners are in for drugs. Over half are in for violent crimes, and another 20% for property crimes. http://www.albany.edu/sourcebook/pdf/t600012009.pdf Doug

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377 [lbo-talk] Spanish promiscuity or German erectile dysfunction? -- rank: 1000

On May 2, 2012, at 4:48 PM, Michael Smith wrote: > I am often amazed at the intensely personal hatefulness > of many posts on this list (and others). You may have noticed that Cde Cox is routinely insulting. He says "incoherent" and "foolish" the way some people say "good morning." It gets very tiresome.

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378 [lbo-talk] Occupy Oakland reports and pics -- rank: 1000

On May 2, 2012, at 10:38 AM, Carrol Cox wrote: > Who is your implied reader? What change in that reader's behavior do you > expect your argument to make? Will it in fact change the number of > prisoners? Will it increase the number of people demanding that the number > of prisoner's be reduced? Or will it merely make you feel more comfortable > in your smugness? Aren't you the one who always complains about dismissive sneers? And, nothing smug about that remark, no. Instead of say ...

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379 [lbo-talk] Occupy Oakland reports and pics -- rank: 1000

On May 2, 2012, at 9:03 AM, Dennis Claxton wrote: > I only want to point out how easily the reaction to it can resonate with law and order tropes about dangerous folk. The other day I read a quote from Richard Pryor who said something like "I'm glad we have penitentiaries" after doing a prison performance. But, really, how many truly dangerous folk do we have? Certainly nothing remotely like 2 million. Oh, damn, I'm talking policy. Bless me Father, for I have sinned. Doug

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380 [lbo-talk] Occupy Oakland reports and pics -- rank: 1000

On May 2, 2012, at 6:45 AM, Dennis Claxton wrote: > I'm harping on this because whenever "prison aboliton" comes up In Angela Davis' version, prison abolition seems to be little more than a social democratic agenda with a call to arrest and jail many fewer people. She doesn't get much more specific than that, does she? Doug

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381 [lbo-talk] Groupon -- rank: 1000

Surprise of the year: > MarketWatch > www.marketwatch.com > > BULLETIN: Groupon shares dive 10% late after revising results and company's auditor tacks on warning > 03/30/2012 04:36:51 PM EDT

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382 [lbo-talk] Adrienne Rich has died -- rank: 1000

On Mar 28, 2012, at 7:53 PM, MICHAEL YATES wrote: > Here is a poem by Adrienne Rich, from the November issue of Monthly Review: Sad. I was really moved seeing her at the MR 50th - was that what it was? 1999? - birthday party. Doug

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383 [lbo-talk] Obama Speaks Out on Trayvon Martin Killing -- rank: 1000

On Mar 24, 2012, at 9:49 PM, Michael Smith wrote: > It's not evasion; it's refusal. There are questions we're > simply in no position to answer, no matter how 'smart' we are > or where we went to school. > > The questions we can't answer are often variations on > "what would we do if we held state power?". They'd also take the barstool form of "What would you do, wiseguy?" A stammering non-answer would not be helpful. Doug

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384 [lbo-talk] Obama Speaks Out on Trayvon Martin Killing -- rank: 1000

On Mar 24, 2012, at 8:58 PM, Michael Smith wrote: > As Carroll has repeatedly noted -- to deaf ears, for the > most part -- politics is one thing; policy, another. It's > really stupid for us to try and devise policy. I'm not sure that that distinction is really smart. I suspect you're just trying to evade answering hard questions. Doug

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Date:	Sat Mar 24 18:02:53 PDT 2012

385 [lbo-talk] left forum -- rank: 1000

On Mar 24, 2012, at 8:46 PM, nathan tankus wrote: > I still get annoyed at how large a percentage > of left forum thinks they are panelists even when they aren't > panelists. Something like 40% of attendees were panelists. Not kidding - I think it was 1400 out of 4000. Doug

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386 [lbo-talk] Obama Speaks Out on Trayvon Martin Killing -- rank: 1000

On Mar 23, 2012, at 11:29 AM, Wojtek S wrote: > Instead of "being careful" O should call for a boycott of Florida > products and tourism (both of them suck anyway). Go to Italy instead > of Miami You're kidding, right? You know how many electoral votes Florida has?

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387 [lbo-talk] Internet accounts -- rank: 1000

Wow, Woj, that's far more ass-painful than anything I experience.

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388 [lbo-talk] Park Slope Food Coop and Israel boycott -- rank: 1000

On Mar 21, 2012, at 3:28 AM, James Heartfield wrote: > More on the Park Slope intifada. > > And already predominantly white, it is getting whiter by the decade > http://www.fuckedinparkslope.com/home/census-2010-the-unbearable-whiteness-of-park-slope.html Park Slope is hilarious! You might enjoy this guy: http://www.blogn-word.com/2008_04_01_archive.html

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389 [lbo-talk] Fwd: Making 9 million jobless "vanish" -- rank: 1000

On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:46 AM, Carrol Cox wrote: > But Doug's logic is the stupid logic of someone who is utterly in the dark > of how public opinion gets formed. If those 9 million (or 3000) have to be > derived from a number of different sources and are not named in a figure > _named_ Unemployment, then they are hidden. Not very many people comb the > official data or would know how to make sense of a number of different > figures. You're funny. Sometimes you rebuke me for pay ...

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390 [lbo-talk] Fwd: Making 9 million jobless "vanish" -- rank: 1000

If they vanished, how'd this smartypants find them using official stats? On Mar 20, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Shane Mage wrote: > > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Shane Mage <shmage at pipeline.com> >> Date: March 20, 2012 9:37:49 AM EDT >> >> Subject: Making 9 million jobless "vanish" (from Naked Capitalism) >> >> >> Making 9 Million Jobless Vanish : How The Government Manipulates Unemployment Statistics Daniel R. Amerman (ha ...

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