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36466 Laying Bets: W Will Win -- rank: 1000

Charles Brown wrote: >Sorry for the conspiracy theory edge to this comment, but I feel >even worse than Doug about polls, that is that they are worse than >that they are meaningless at this stage of the game. I cannot put >it past some sectors to use/influence ( buy) early polls with skewed >results to influence the formation of public opinion. The small >samples, may also be consciously biased. There's a lot wrong with polls - the narrowness of the categories, the forced choi ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Aug 16 11:12:22 PDT 2000

36467 Union Leaders and the Left (RE: Laying Bets: W Will Win -- rank: 1000

Dennis Breslin wrote: >Someone has a link to Gennifer Flowers website around here. <http://www.genniferflowers.com/>. Not much free info there; everything's for sale, including tapes of her phone chats with Bill. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Aug 16 06:14:13 PDT 2000

36468 Laying Bets: W Will Win -- rank: 1000

Rob Schaap wrote: >These polls don't mean jack-shit, do they? A day after Dubya's non-speech, >he was riding seventeen points clear. By the beginning of this convention >the gap was about eleven. The American Association of Public Opinion Research list is discussing a piece that appeared in the Wash Post the other day by the paper's polling director. His argument was that the polling industry is using extremely small samples (ca. 500 people) to generate quick overnight polls, with ext ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Aug 16 06:09:39 PDT 2000

36469 Laying Bets: W Will Win -- rank: 1000

Carl Remick wrote: >But if there isn't a market crisis or some other October Surprise, >Bush will remain relatively more attractive to the voters, IMHO. >Gore is hopelessly didactic, which is pure poison to Americans. >Bush, of course, is anything but a smarty-pants; he radiates >intellectual mediocrity, and US voters tend to find that quite >engaging. So how do you explain Clinton's 60% approval rating. Whatever the guy's faults, stupidity isn't among them. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Aug 16 06:11:45 PDT 2000

36470 Laying Bets: W Will Win -- rank: 1000

Michael Hoover wrote: > > I long ago reconciled myself to the cessation of political activity from >> June through November of every fourth year. But does it have to make >> internet conversation dull too? >> Carrol > >Gee, are you implying that such chatter was something other than dull >before? Michael Hoover It's because you've been so quiet lately, Michael - discursive quality has sagged. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Aug 16 05:56:59 PDT 2000

36471 Union Leaders and the Left (RE: Laying Bets: W Will Win -- rank: 1000

Nathan Newman wrote: >I just have never understood how leftists can speak so often in the name >of the working class while ignoring and belittling the opinions of leaders >elected by those same people? 1) Unions are hardly models of democracy. How many union leaders are elected by the rank & file? 2) It's kind of hard to argue that U.S. unions are thriving, so maybe these leaders are making less-than-wise choices. 3) Are we unfit to criticize union leaders, or any other elected poli ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Aug 15 13:31:35 PDT 2000

36472 Greatest Presidents Since WW II -- rank: 1000

Chuck0 wrote: >Doug was one of the few Left journalists who "got" Seattle as it was >happening. I'm sure that I can get the pierced masses of the local black >bloc to give Doug an honorary piercing for his work. Oooh, where do I sign up? Doug

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Date:	Tue Aug 15 13:29:37 PDT 2000

36473 NZ -- rank: 1000

Financial Post - August 15, 2000 THE REAL LESSONS FROM NEW ZEALAND Vaunted privatization push devastated the country, rather than saving it. By Murray Dobbin It has been so long since anyone in the business press has praised the New Zealand "miracle" it is almost as if we imagined the whole thing. But, of course, the current silence is really no mystery. The fifteen year free market experiment has been an unmitigated disaster. The suffering caused amongst ordinary New Zealanders is wel ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Aug 15 12:58:15 PDT 2000

36474 Laying Bets: W Will Win -- rank: 1000

Intrepid Reporter of Sleaze of Substance wrote: >Bush gave a fine speech, regardless of its ratings among the ruling >class. Huh? I thought Alex C had it right when he said Bush looked like a squinting tailor's dummy. That was one of the dullest, most contentless speeches I've ever heard. What was so fine about it? Doug

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Date:	Tue Aug 15 12:56:17 PDT 2000

36475 NYC benefit for Philly busted -- rank: 1000

BENEFIT FOR JAILED PROTESTERS IN PHILLY FRIDAY, AUGUST 18, 8PM DJs WILL SPIN, MEMBERS OF THE HUNGRY MARCH BAND AND BOYS OF NOW (from Philadelphia) WILL BE PLAYING, WE'LL BE DRINKING UNION BEER, AND RECENTLY RELEASED PROTESTERS WILL SPEAK THEIR TRUTH! $5 ON UP TO WHATEVER YOU CAN POSSIBLY SPARE (SLIDING SCALE) WE ARE TRYING TO RAISE THOUSANDS! 67 METROPOLITAN AVE. WILLIAMSBURG, BROOKLYN Directions: L train to Bedford Avenue (1st stop in Brooklyn if you're coming from Manhattan). Walk south 5 blo ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Aug 15 12:33:05 PDT 2000

36476 Laying Bets: W Will Win -- rank: 1000

Steve Perry wrote: >so now then, *tell me why i shouldn't be.* Hey, I'm voting for Nader, remember? One thing that persuades me that it might make a diff is based on Garry Wills's analysis, in Nixon Agonistes, of why the 60s happened. Thoughout the 50s, liberals said, it's Eisenhower, if we only got one of our guys in there, everything would be better. They got JFK, and everything wasn't better. So lots of people decided that the system was fucked. I think one reason we've seen an upsurge in ...

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Date:	Tue Aug 15 12:28:49 PDT 2000

36477 Laying Bets: W Will Win -- rank: 1000

Nathan Newman wrote: >However, I saw a report today that makes it look like even Jimmy Hoffa Jr. >is not buying that argument, since he has explicitly said he won't be >endorsing Nader and it looks like he will be lining up with Gore. >Unfortunately, most people on this list seem to have more respect for the >opinions of unelected columnists from THE NATION than for the elected >leaders of working class organizations on whether there are important >class differences between ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Aug 15 12:31:15 PDT 2000

36478 Al & abortion -- rank: 1000

Wall Street Journal - August 15, 2000 Gore's About Face on Issues Sparks Some Tough Scrutiny By JEANNE CUMMINGS Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL LOS ANGELES -- Vice President Al Gore says he has always supported a woman's right to have an abortion, even when he was voting to prohibit federal funding of it in the early 1980s. But former Congresswoman Patricia Schroeder, one of the vice president's supporters and a leader in the abortion-rights movement, remembers a different Al Gore. She ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Aug 15 12:25:06 PDT 2000

36479 sex guns & goilz -- rank: 1000

[posted from non-sub'd address] Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 14:59:04 -0400 To: lbo-talk at lists.panix.com, lbo-talk at lists.panix.com From: snit <snit at interpactinc.com> At 07:30 PM 8/14/00 -0400, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >Kelley wrote: > >>gender may well be here to stay since i personally don't think we need to >>raise androgynous beings in order eradicate gender oppression > >Androgyny is a gendered concept, as you can see from the composition of >the word itsel ...

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Date:	Tue Aug 15 12:03:10 PDT 2000

36480 Greatest Presidents Since WW II -- rank: 1000

Carrol Cox wrote: >Doug Henwood wrote: > >> Carrol may want to ignore this... > >Doug, it's amazing how much you and Mark Jones resemble each other. Both >of you exhibit the essence of all dogmatisms: the unexamined assumption >that there is a direct relation between the highest level of theory and >practice. Mark repeats over and over again that the energy is running >out, but refuses to embody it in any systematic political practice. You >endlessly repeat, &qu ...

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Date:	Tue Aug 15 11:37:55 PDT 2000