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36241 Swan Song -- rank: 1000

Wojtek Sokolowski wrote: >As for Cheney, he indeed is dangerously cunning. What's the evidence for this, aside from his repellently evil sneer? The guy flunked out of Yale when you could get a C for just not drooling in your blue books. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Dec 14 07:16:19 PST 2000

36242 legitimation crisis postponed? -- rank: 1000

Gallup Poll News Service POLITICS & ELECTIONS NewsAlert __________________________________________________________________ Here is your requested Government & Election Reform update from the Gallup Poll News Service. 12/14/00 - Eight in Ten Americans to Accept Bush as "Legitimate" President Link to story: http://www.gallup.alerts.com/alerts/ClickThrough?Address=dhenwood@panix.com&SiteName=galluppoll&CriteriaID=1230&Destination=http://www.gallup.com/poll/releases/pr ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Dec 14 07:03:45 PST 2000

36243 Seth, Pay Up -- rank: 1000

Nathan Newman wrote: >So, for the rest of LBO folks who so confidently predicted a Gore win given >the economy et al, how do you explain the closeness of the race in the end? Decline of party? Gore's distancing himself from Clinton? His dismal personality and campaign? It was really quite an achievement to lose that election - one for the record books, in fact. Of the previous 13 elections, the only ones the mighty LBO model failed to predict were 1960 and 1976. The prediction for 1960 was ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Dec 14 06:37:23 PST 2000

36244 O Happy Day -- rank: 1000

Dennis Perrin/Nancy Bauer wrote: >To quote the timeless Oingo >Boingo, "When was the last time you dug a ditch, baby?!" I've never dug a ditch, and thank god for that. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Dec 14 06:31:16 PST 2000

36245 Swan Song -- rank: 1000

Max Sawicky wrote: >Why couldn't Gore have said something like Because he's a Democrat, and a fairly conservative one at that. Why do you even have to ask? Is this the beginning of the end of Nathan's great movement to democratize the franchise? Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Dec 13 19:19:14 PST 2000

36246 Fw: {The Grip} Clinton Reinvented Communism ~ by Rep. Traficant -- rank: 1000

Max Sawicky wrote: >. . . >If you were familiar with Congressman Traficant's district, the people >in it and their problems, then you might not think Traficant was such a >slice into the rough. Tom > > >I can appreciate they got problems. > >One of their problems is their Congressman has >as little credibility among his peers as anyone >in the House. That isn't good, no matter what >your politics are. Does he still comb his hair with a Weed Whacker? Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Dec 13 19:17:05 PST 2000

36247 Socialist Party's McReynolds on Supreme Court and Ballot Count -- rank: 1000

From: DavidMcR at aol.com Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:09:31 EST SOCIALIST PARTY CANDIDATE CONDEMNS SUPREME COURT RULING It is now clear that the right-wing majority of the U.S. Supreme Court is determined there shall not be a fair count of the Florida ballots, thus ensuring the election of George W. Bush as the next President. The issue for the Socialist Party is not some profound difference between the two candidates, Bush and Gore - on the basic issues they share a great deal of common ground. ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Dec 13 14:27:22 PST 2000

36248 constitutional cretinism -- rank: 1000

Speaking of the Constitution, I just unearthed this beaut from the archives. Note the conclusion - the excellence of the document is that it keeps the masses quiet. Otherwise, heavens, they might be taking sides in a big political battle! Doug PS: Schell recently told a class at the New School that he "never understood the connection between politics and economics." ---- The Nation - February 15, 1999 What Works: The Constitution. JONATHAN SCHELL In most respects, the impeachment of Pr ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Dec 13 13:46:26 PST 2000

36249 Gore Gives up -- rank: 1000

jf noonan wrote: >OK, I've read some of his stuff, including the 2-A piece in >_Harpers_, which I largely agreed with. But what is his plan >for getting this new constitution? Even in significantly more >progressive times we couldn't get an ERA passed... He's a bit vague on that, alas... Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Dec 13 13:34:31 PST 2000

36250 villifying Israel's critics -- rank: 1000

Independent (London) - December 13, 2000 I Am Being Vilified For Telling The Truth About Palestinians 'The abuse being directed at anyone who dares to criticise Israel is reaching McCarthyite proportions' by Robert Fisk In the Middle East jungle, a journalist has to expect a few sticks and stones. A Bahrain newspaper cartoonist once depicted me as a rabid dog (fit, of course, for extermination), and Cairo's most lickspittle columnist called me "a crow pecking at the corpse of Egypt". B ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Dec 13 13:27:53 PST 2000

36251 Gore Gives up -- rank: 1000

Jordan Hayes wrote: >Doug asks: > >> Clearly some body had to make some kind of final decision, >> politically speaking, and given the prestige and power of the >> SC, why not them? After all, they're the ones who decide whether >> abortion is legal, whether segregation is acceptable, whether >> cops can stop us in the street and search us. So why not this? > >Straight line: because electing the President is left up to the states? Yeah, but so is ed ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Dec 13 13:25:53 PST 2000

36252 Gore Gives up -- rank: 1000

Max Sawicky wrote: >I wouldn't try to start a rewrite of the Constitution >until the political culture, institutions, and power >relations made improvement a likely outcome. But as any student of Dan Lazare knows, the Constitution bears a heavy responsibility for the primitive political culture in the U.S. The conscious checks on democracy, for one, and the reliance on Constitutional "guarantees" leading to a complacent demobilization for two. So you can't address the politica ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Dec 13 13:22:29 PST 2000

36253 Gore Gives up -- rank: 1000

Justin Schwartz wrote: >The law of the case was obvious. There was no substantial federal question. Well, to paraphrase the old saying, the Supreme Court counts the election returns! But was this just a matter of law? Clearly some body had to make some kind of final decision, politically speaking, and given the prestige and power of the SC, why not them? After all, they're the ones who decide whether abortion is legal, whether segregation is acceptable, whether cops can stop us in the street ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Dec 13 12:14:46 PST 2000

36254 The Jim Crow Five and the Coming Political War -- rank: 1000

Nathan Newman wrote: >It all comes down to the basics- organize, organize, organize. We now have >an ideological terrain to rally and organize progressive forces; the only >question is doing the hard work to make it all happen. So what's the goal, the central organizing principle? That it's all about Gore getting stiffed, or that the U.S. electoral system is deeply fucked? Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Dec 13 12:09:36 PST 2000

36255 The Jim Crow Five and the Coming Political War -- rank: 1000

Nathan Newman wrote: >Which is why the struggle will have to be in the streets and at the ballot >box and in the workplaces across the country and in alliances around the >world. > >As far as I'm concerned, this is an incredibly great result, with the >legitimacy of the Right shredded and our folks mobilized with the taste of >bile in their mouths. I hope you're right. I suspect what we'll see instead, over the coming weeks, are calls for national unity, the pragmatic bipart ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Dec 13 11:28:50 PST 2000