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3601 [lbo-talk] ciao, 60 -- rank: 1000

On Jan 21, 2010, at 1:34 PM, Joseph Catron wrote: > I don't think progressive features like an employer mandate, price > controls, > and the public option are exactly marginal among either Democratic > voters or > politicians. Voters, of course not. Many Dem voters have a pretty good outlook on life. But the further you go up the party hierarchy, the worse things get. >> Auto and other old-line manufacturing businesses might be helped by >> single-payer, but do you s ...

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3602 [lbo-talk] ciao, 60 -- rank: 1000

On Jan 21, 2010, at 12:15 PM, Joseph Catron wrote: > I know we don't exactly see eye to eye on this (or at least didn't > on July > 20, 2007, when I last remember the topic being broached here), but > I'm still > not convinced that the Republican position on health care is of more > use to > capital as a whole than the Democratic one. Surely by this point, a > number > of our rulers outside the insurance industry have noticed what > unregulated > premiums did to ...

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3603 [lbo-talk] ciao, 60 -- rank: 1000

On Jan 21, 2010, at 11:54 AM, farmelantj at juno.com wrote: > I remember all the pillars of the > Democratic establishment who started > calling upon Al Gore to throw in the > towel. And when Jesse Jackson threatened > to organize street demos in Florida to > protest the Republican shenanigans concerning > the recount, all of a sudden the media > was running with stories about Jessee's > "love child." Needless to say those > street demos never happened. ...

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Date:	Thu Jan 21 09:02:52 PST 2010

3604 [lbo-talk] ciao, 60 -- rank: 1000

On Jan 21, 2010, at 11:34 AM, Max Sawicky wrote: > The explanation lacking in this thread is the evident failure of the > DP's survival instinct. Whatever you say about them, they have to > want to stay in power. You would think that. So when they repeatedly do things that violate the survival instinct, you have to wonder what structural thing is at work. My hypothesis is that service to capital will always trump the survival instinct. Doug

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Date:	Thu Jan 21 08:47:46 PST 2010

3605 [lbo-talk] ciao, 60 -- rank: 1000

On Jan 21, 2010, at 10:02 AM, Michael Smith wrote: > The Republicans were threatening to do it back when they were the > majority -- the slang phrase was "the nuclear option." At that > point, of course, all the Dems (and The Nation magazine) were > desperate to "save the filibuster!" Idiots.

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3606 [lbo-talk] ciao, 60 -- rank: 1000

On Jan 20, 2010, at 9:44 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: > I would agree with that description of the Democratic Party, but > what I > am after is to account for the teDPnacity with which for a century or > more liberals and even radicals have held on to the faith that the > DP's > "progressive noises" reflect in some way the reality of the party. They want to believe. Giving up that belief would require admitting too much about the nature of reality and the forces stacked aga ...

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3607 [lbo-talk] ciao, 60 -- rank: 1000

On Jan 20, 2010, at 6:46 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: > The thought that liberals cannot stand is that the actions of the DP & > its leadership really represent what the party fundmentally stands > for. I prefer my formulation: the Dems are a party of capital that has to pretend for electoral reasons that it's not. So it makes "progressive" noises sometimes to excite the base, but when in power acts to please its funders. Doug

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3608 [lbo-talk] World War as Class War -- rank: 1000

On Jan 20, 2010, at 12:40 PM, Dennis Perrin wrote: > Hoo boy -- a Stalinist/Nazi slap fight's a brewin'! And it's only > 2010! It's amazing how the passage of 70 years hasn't dulled the ardor, eh?

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3609 [lbo-talk] ciao, 60 -- rank: 1000

On Jan 20, 2010, at 9:11 AM, Wojtek S wrote: > He was basically backstabbed by > his own party. His only fault was that he did not manage to rein > these > cocksuckers in. Huh? The guy courts Republicans, who still won't give him the time of day, gave the right wing of his own party everything they wanted, and has dispatched Rahm Emanuel to rein in the left wing of the Dems. How is any of this backstabbing? Doug

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3610 [lbo-talk] ciao, 60 -- rank: 1000

On Jan 19, 2010, at 10:07 PM, Michael Smith wrote: > On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 21:48:00 -0500 > Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote: > >> Let the weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth begin. The Dems, who >> couldn't do a damn thing right with a majority of 19, now have to >> contend with a majority of 18. > > They didn't "contend" with 19, and they won't "contend" > with 18. And of course "wouldn't" is more accurate than ...

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3611 [lbo-talk] ciao, 60 -- rank: 1000

Let the weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth begin. The Dems, who couldn't do a damn thing right with a majority of 19, now have to contend with a majority of 18.

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Date:	Tue Jan 19 18:48:00 PST 2010

3612 [lbo-talk] how to tell D from R -- rank: 1000

[can't get to original source because site down for maintenance] <http://bakadesuyo.com/can-you-tell-someone-is-a-republican-or-democ> Can you tell if someone is a Republican or Democrat just by looking at their face? Here we found that individuals' political affiliations could be accurately discerned from their faces. In Study 1, perceivers were able to accurately distinguish whether U.S. Senate candidates were either Democrats or Republicans based on photos of their faces. Study 2 s ...

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Date:	Tue Jan 19 18:06:23 PST 2010

3613 [lbo-talk] Patrick Bond's reply to Robin Hahnel on Carbon Trading: summary carbon trading still fails both as policy and as politics -- rank: 1000

On Jan 19, 2010, at 2:06 PM, Gar Lipow quoted Patrick Bond: > * Robin's political vision is constrained by the backward state of > US congressional power relations, which indeed makes his proposed > reforms far less likely than the combination of grassroots direct > actions (not a legislative utopia) against polluters, national/local > air quality and planning regulation, and substantial public > investments that together the CJ movement is advocating. I don't get this at all ...

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Date:	Tue Jan 19 11:19:34 PST 2010

3614 [lbo-talk] Yale recruits: the musical -- rank: 1000

And this is an institution with distinguished schools of music and drama! http://gawker.com/5451800/yale-the-musical?autoplay=true

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Date:	Tue Jan 19 08:27:35 PST 2010

3615 [lbo-talk] Gaza flooded after Israel opens dam gates -- rank: 1000

[As the Israel gets good press for relief efforts in Haiti...] <http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=116482&sectionid=351020202> Gaza flooded after Israel opens dam gates Mon, 18 Jan 2010 23:41:04 GMT Israel has opened the floodgates of one of its dams in the eastern part of the Gaza Strip, flooding Palestinian houses and causing severe damage. The Israeli authorities opened the dam's floodgates without any prior warning or coordination with local authorities in Gaza, stunning the ...

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