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35956 Gordon on productivity -- rank: 1000

Robert Gordon says he's rewriting his productivity paper and will have something in about 2 weeks. Doug

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Date:	Mon Feb 14 19:03:33 PST 2000

35957 round the bend -- rank: 1000

Jeffrey St. Clair wrote: >Oh, Doug, that's just so much of Lou's chest-thumping. There's no question who >the real musical genius behind the VU was: John Cale. If you doubt this, >listen to his 70s post-VU lp Fear (Is A Man's Best Friend). Oh, I'm a big Cale fan - I even like the highly aestheticized Paris 1919 - but the VU was a collaboration. Lou's early solo stuff was great, too, before the artiste in him got the best of the rocker. Doug

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Date:	Mon Feb 14 18:17:41 PST 2000

35958 The Cold War, the "Unconscious," & the "Vigilant Self" (was Re: Moon Pie) -- rank: 1000

Dace wrote: >Do you feel the anti-Communists of the 50s were engaged in a cynical >manipulation of public opinion? Did they concoct the Red Menace as a PR >campaign? Or did they believe their own psycho-babble? Were they selling >the American people on something they knew to be fraudulent, or did they >feel genuinely threatened, as if by an invasion of alien space pods? The ruling class was certainly threatened. It wasn't a paranoid fantasy, though there were plenty of fantasti ...

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Date:	Mon Feb 14 17:44:22 PST 2000

35959 round the bend -- rank: 1000

Jeffrey St. Clair wrote: >C'mon, Jefferson Airplane, Love 'em. > Melanie (who I have a secret and inexplicable >passion for) Inexplicable indeed. "I got a brand new rollerskate" - gag. > and the Dead where only a sideshow! How can you discount: Sly >and the Family Stone? Hendrix? Love Hendrix. Though he was the last act, playing mainly to an empty field. > CCR? The Band? Johnny Winter? Paul >Butterfield? Ten Years After? >The Who? Richie Havens? Ten Yrs After ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Feb 14 17:35:39 PST 2000

35960 productivity miracle or workhouse? -- rank: 1000

Michael Perelman wrote: >As United States moves further into relying on intellectual property rights, >productivity is bound to soar since the labor component is minimal for most >intellectual property goods. It's all fixed costs. In response to that, and to Brad's stuff on New Economy goods, I wonder: just how significant are they to overall output? Movies and software are chic, but they're not *that* big a share of GDP. IP is important to chip design and drug manufacture, but those t ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Feb 14 16:40:10 PST 2000

35961 round the bend -- rank: 1000

John Halle wrote: >It was Martin Luther, J.S. Bach's favorite composer, who first recognized >that "the devil has all the best tunes." I guess now its the fascists. Is Lou Reed a fascist? Does Laurie Anderson know? >Actually, I don't totally agree that "all that hippie crap" 30 years ago >was all so awful. The White Album still has a lot to recommend it. I was thinking more of the Grateful Dead and most of the Woodstock bands, not the Beatles. Joke heard at the ...

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Date:	Mon Feb 14 16:37:31 PST 2000

35962 productivity miracle or workhouse? -- rank: 1000

Fabian Balardini wrote: >No, the rate of exploitation refers to the extraction of extra labor >out of all workers. The rate of exploitation of productive workers >is the rate of surplus value of the whole economy. The productivity >rate implies a definition of what is productive in capitalism, ie: >the production of surplus value. Therefore, Michael's notion of >productivity is more correct, the extraction of surplus value rather >than Doug's notion of productivity which f ...

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Date:	Mon Feb 14 16:24:32 PST 2000

35963 coputers -- rank: 1000

Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 16:41:27 -0500 From: Enrique Diaz-Alvarez <enrique at anise.ee.cornell.edu> Organization: Cornell University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; HP-UX B.10.20 9000/735) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lbo-talk at lists.panix.com Subject: Re: productivity miracle or workhouse? References: <Pine.NEB.4.21.0002141448230.26696-100000 at panix6.panix.com> <v0422080ab4ce1197b598@[166.84.250.86]> <a04301006b4ce1552a15f@[128.32.105.158]> <v042 ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Feb 14 16:25:17 PST 2000

35964 productivity miracle or workhouse? -- rank: 1000

Brad De Long wrote: >1%? Meaning that an extra 1% per year aggregate total factor >productivity growth from computer manufacture implies that computer >manufacturing total factor productivity is doubling every year? >Has the "New Economy" >Rendered the Productivity Slowdown Obsolete? > >Robert J. Gordon > >Northwestern University >and >National Bureau of Economic Research > >Revised Version, June 14 1999. >Abstract > > >When the period ...

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Date:	Mon Feb 14 16:16:49 PST 2000

35965 more conspiracy -- rank: 1000

Wojtek Sokolowski wrote: >The moral of the story is that human mind can find patterns and order in >*anything* it turns its attention to, because it is the source of those >patterns and order, no? That sounds like a theory of psychology. Careful! Doug

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Date:	Mon Feb 14 13:06:43 PST 2000

35966 productivity miracle or workhouse? -- rank: 1000

Brad De Long wrote: >We continue to hope. > >If the shift to a higher-investment economy induced by the >deficit-reduction programs of 1990 and 1993 don't produce first a >productivity boom and then a long-run real wage boom, then us >Democratic neoliberals and Clintonistas will have put in place an >economic policy that will have done good only for Republicans... > >How much longer do we have before we have to admit defeat? Dunno. How long? Next downcycle? So do you b ...

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Date:	Mon Feb 14 12:44:56 PST 2000

35967 productivity miracle or workhouse? -- rank: 1000

Seth Ackerman wrote: >What do you make of Robert J. Gordon's analysis of the productivity >stats? He finds that all of the recent increase in prod. growth comes from >the computer manufacturing sector--which makes up only 1% of the economy. >The other 99% of the economy has had SLOWER productivity growth in 1996-99 >than in any other period since WWII. It's persuasive, but then I'm biased. I've just emailed Gordon to see if he's changed his mind because of the latest, rather high, ...

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Date:	Mon Feb 14 12:59:35 PST 2000

35968 'round the bend -- rank: 1000

John Halle wrote: >How about the Velvet Underground and the Warhol clique. Yeah, how about 'em? Completely wonderful stuff, the VU I mean, even if violent & nihilistic. I was just savoring the boxed set, Peel Slowly & See, and all the cool pix of the stars in the accompanying booklet. So much better than all that hippie crap that was floating around 30 years ago. "Been in the country/much too long/trying to be a farmer/I miss the city streets/and the neon lights/train comin' 'rou ...

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Date:	Mon Feb 14 12:49:09 PST 2000

35969 productivity miracle or workhouse? -- rank: 1000

Michael Pollak wrote: >But practically, isn't productivity actually about adding more value per >unit of work time *paid for?* In that sense, it is up; it's not >overstated. In which case Mr. Roach may have put his finger on exactly >where the rise in productivity comes from and how the information >revolution makes it possible. It's made it possible to get more unpaid >work out of people. That's exploitation, not productivity! The bourgeois line is that higher productivity w ...

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Date:	Mon Feb 14 12:12:10 PST 2000

35970 Fwd: BOUNCE lbo-talk at lists.panix.com: taboo body match "/unsubscribe/" at line 22 -- rank: 1000

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