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346 [lbo-talk] Graeber's latest... -- rank: 1000

On May 10, 2012, at 8:16 PM, 123hop at comcast.net wrote: > I think this is both a true and useful way of looking at things. I think it is absolutely the case that capital rules over and depends upon many types of relations that it would not recognize as valid, but which it sentimentalizes or demonizes as needed to assert a capitalist totality it would never actually survive. This is a good thing to know and to point out to others. > > Anyway, I have no problem with it. Why are you conc ...

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Date:	Thu May 10 17:32:24 PDT 2012

347 [lbo-talk] Graeber's latest... -- rank: 1000

On May 10, 2012, at 6:02 PM, 123hop at comcast.net wrote: > http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/may/07/occupy-liberation-from-liberalism?fb_action_ids=2799351682348&fb_action_types=news.reads&fb_source=other_multiline Whine whine whine about the liberals. They're really not the problem. The repressive power of the state and the consciousness of the masses are problems. MoveOn.org is an annoyance. And in other news, what sense does this make? http://platypus1917.org ...

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Date:	Thu May 10 16:46:14 PDT 2012

348 [lbo-talk] is law enforcement a way to raise money for localeconomies? -- rank: 1000

On May 10, 2012, at 2:51 PM, Michael Smith wrote: > This is my attitude as well. I hate nearly all bike lanes; > they're almost always poorly thought-out and badly engineered, > and make the street less safe rather than more. There are > exceptions, but they are few. I quoted your comments to Charlie Komanoff (who says hi! and had many nice things to say about you, but didn't know you were the the critic I was quoting until after he wrote this), who responds: >> was just denoun ...

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Date:	Thu May 10 13:05:39 PDT 2012

349 [lbo-talk] is law enforcement a way to raise money forlocaleconomies? -- rank: 1000

On May 9, 2012, at 7:14 PM, Jordan Hayes wrote: > michael yates writes: > >> not enough has been said about out of control cops, money >> as a motivator of arrests, false charges, innacurate >> breathalyzers, etc. > > For me this comes down to: does this happen sometimes? Jesus, not enough has been said by whom? I've been railing for months about how out of control the NYPD is. But they're busy repressing harmless people like kids of color and Occupy protesters, not ...

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Date:	Wed May 9 17:12:09 PDT 2012

350 [lbo-talk] is law enforcement a way to raise money for localeconomies? -- rank: 1000

On May 9, 2012, at 6:25 PM, Jordan Hayes wrote: > Well, as Doug might say, fuck you. Gosh, I've got a reputation!

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Date:	Wed May 9 17:09:34 PDT 2012

351 [lbo-talk] is law enforcement a way to raise money for localeconomies? -- rank: 1000

On May 9, 2012, at 5:02 PM, Michael Smith wrote: > Yep. Even then. Think of the car as a revolver which you have brought > to a cocktail party. No, it's really not much like that. For a wiseguy, you can be a stiff-necked moralist. Doug

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Date:	Wed May 9 14:08:54 PDT 2012

352 [lbo-talk] is law enforcement a way to raise money for localeconomies? -- rank: 1000

On May 9, 2012, at 4:34 PM, Michael Smith wrote: > In other words: it's not the ped's responsibility to avoid > being hit; it's the driver's responsibility to avoid hitting > him. Even when said pedestrian walks into the fucking street without looking? Sorry, I can take this principle a good bit of the way with you, but not that far.

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Date:	Wed May 9 13:45:27 PDT 2012

353 [lbo-talk] is law enforcement a way to raise money for localeconomies? -- rank: 1000

On May 9, 2012, at 2:38 PM, Michael Smith wrote: > On Wed, 9 May 2012 14:28:27 -0400 > Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote: > >> the morons who text while crossing the street. > > This is definitely becoming the Alterkaker List. Do you drive, wiseguy? Are you constantly having to avoid hitting distracted jackasses who step into the crosswalk against traffic?

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Date:	Wed May 9 11:45:11 PDT 2012

354 [lbo-talk] is law enforcement a way to raise money for localeconomies? -- rank: 1000

On May 9, 2012, at 2:25 PM, Marv Gandall wrote: > Cell phones as dangerous as drunk driving Don't get me started on this. And the morons who text while crossing the street.

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Date:	Wed May 9 11:28:27 PDT 2012

355 [lbo-talk] is law enforcement a way to raise moneyfor localeconomies -- rank: 1000

On May 9, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Jordan Hayes wrote: >> why would anyone think that every traffic stop and the like is fine? > > Why would anyone ever use hyperbole and straw-man in the same sentence? No kidding. Cops ticketing shitty drivers: good. Cops using traffic stop as excuse to harass: bad.

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Date:	Wed May 9 10:22:32 PDT 2012

356 [lbo-talk] is law enforcement a way to raisemoneyfor localeconomies -- rank: 1000

On May 9, 2012, at 12:47 PM, Jordan Hayes wrote: > Doug writes: > >> I would welcome a heavy repressive hand of traffic enforcement >> against the lunatics who terrorize Brooklyn streets. > > You mean you're for a 'traffic racket' ...? Yes! Bigtime. I've never seen drivers like these. Even the city bus drivers are nuts.

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Date:	Wed May 9 09:50:29 PDT 2012

357 [lbo-talk] is law enforcement a way to raise moneyfor localeconomies -- rank: 1000

On May 9, 2012, at 12:34 PM, Jordan Hayes wrote: > Following traffic rules isn't just obeying the law; it's what keeps people from being rude assholes. There's an ad on NYC buses now that says that (and I may not have these number exactly right) if you're hit by a car doing 30 mph, you stand an 80% chance of survival; if you're hit at 40, you stand a 70% chance of being a goner. I would welcome a heavy repressive hand of traffic enforcement against the lunatics who terrorize Brooklyn streets. ...

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Date:	Wed May 9 09:43:24 PDT 2012

358 [lbo-talk] is law enforcement a way to raise money for local economies? -- rank: 1000

On May 9, 2012, at 10:52 AM, Chuck Grimes wrote: > In California, the level is so low, sniffing a cork will get you a DUI Supposedly I could have 4 drinks in a couple of hours and be legally ok in New York and Massachusetts, the states where I do most of my drinking & driving. That's actually scary. I'd never drive on more than 2. Doug

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Date:	Wed May 9 07:56:46 PDT 2012

359 [lbo-talk] is law enforcement a way to raise money for localeconomies? -- rank: 1000

On May 9, 2012, at 10:13 AM, Alan P. Rudy wrote: > Are any of the solutions likely to be doing anything about the everyday psychic pain people feel, pain they suppress with drugs and alcohol? That's all very nice, but shitheads are driving drunk and killing people now. A wonderful woman who worked at Verso got nailed by one just down the street a few months ago. Do we have to await a social revolution to do something about it? Doug

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Date:	Wed May 9 07:19:12 PDT 2012

360 [lbo-talk] is law enforcement a way to raise money for local economies? -- rank: 1000

On May 9, 2012, at 9:06 AM, Wojtek S wrote: > If one cannot afford it, then one should not drive. Which, aside from NYC and maybe a few other places, is nearly impossible anywhere in the U.S. You couldn't get anywhere. Doug

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