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34441 FW: FW: Clintonoids Serve Up Mud Pie Analysis -- rank: 1000

Max Sawicky wrote: >DH: >No doubt at least some of the growth in temp help - which appears in >the employment numbers as temp help, a service industry - has been >among people actually working in factories. Anyone from EPI got a >handle on this? > >probably. Maybe I can dig something up, though it >should be on our web site somewhere. Ah. Here's a clue: <http://www.bog.frb.fed.us/pubs/feds/1999/199957/199957abs.html>. >Measuring Temporary Labor Outsourcing in U. ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed May 17 15:17:37 PDT 2000

34442 Clintonoids Serve Up Mud Pie Analysis -- rank: 1000

Andrew English wrote: >You weaken one of the strongest sections of the labor movement, then >you weaken all of labor. If the auto sector all goes to Mexico and Japan >(to take the extreme case) >it hurts evebody. Then the UAW better get off its ass and start developing some ties with Mexican workers, instead of cutting "all layoffs in Mexico first" deals with GM. Doug

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Date:	Wed May 17 15:03:33 PDT 2000

34443 FW: FW: Clintonoids Serve Up Mud Pie Analysis -- rank: 1000

Max Sawicky wrote: >A few words from Prof. Blecker in response to Bro. Henwood: > >Dear Max, > Here are a few random thoughts/quick responses. > One obvious issue is what's the relevant counterfactual. The effect >of NAFTA is estimated by comparing how many manufacturing jobs there >would be (hypothetically) without NAFTA vs. the actual number with >NAFTA. What has happened since 1994 is irrelevant. Still, I'd say that >+217,000 jobs over 6 years in a booming ec ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed May 17 14:46:07 PDT 2000

34444 more cops -- rank: 1000

THE WHITE HOUSE Office of the Press Secretary ________________________________________________________________________ For Immediate Release May 17, 2000 Highlights of President Clinton's Counterterrorism Funding Request President Clinton announced a plan today to invest an additional $300 million in critical programs to strengthen the Nation's counterterrorism efforts. The funding would enhance the Federal government's work to deter and detect terrorist act ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed May 17 13:27:53 PDT 2000

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Max Sawicky wrote: >Au contraire. For workers with similar qualifications, >a fall in manufacturing wages probably means downward >pressure on service wages. Conversely, service workers >have more bargaining power if there is an ample mfg >sector to which to move. Sure, but if we're talking the loss of 100,000 manufacturing jobs, how much downward pressure does that place when total private service sector employment is 85 million - and total service sector employment is 106 mill ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed May 17 13:27:07 PDT 2000

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SergioL652 at aol.com wrote: >How high have these wage gains been? Do they reach the level of the >late 70's, early 80's? I was under the impression that the wage >gains had been modest at best, which is one of the reasons for the >low level of inflation, in spite of low unemployment. I thought >this was one of the reasons the Fed had delayed raising interest >rates until yesterday. The average real hourly wage in the U.S. is back to 1986 levels. For a long-term picture, see ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed May 17 13:23:10 PDT 2000

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Andrew English wrote: >There is considerable anecdotal evidence of employer threats to move >production to Mexico if workers vote to unionize. Whether it adds >up to a rigorous proof of an effect is another question. It is hard to >separate >the effects of particular trade policies from the up and downs of the >economic cycle. > >Whatever the economic data may say, the gut instinct of most trade unionists >that >NAFTA was a bad deal and the line-up of >corpora ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed May 17 12:32:25 PDT 2000

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Max Sawicky wrote: >I think the case that NAFTA damaged the U.S. >working class isn't as easy to make as people seem to think. >Doug > > >It might be difficult to convince radical economists, >but perhaps less so for others: > >>From epinet.org, public opinion section. >(survey of polling data) > >Overall, do you think increased trade between the United States and China >would mostly help or mostly hurt [see below]?" > >(Percentages) > ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed May 17 12:22:20 PDT 2000

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Tom Lehman wrote: >Doug--The union drive to raise in the minium wage has really helped >improve all >stats and raise all boats. Its forced employers at the bottom of >the wage scale >to raise wages and has created demand that otherwise wouldn't have been. Yup. We need more of that. More organizing of low-wage workers, too. And agitation to keep the unemployment rate low. Doug

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Date:	Wed May 17 12:25:37 PDT 2000

34450 Prince Charles v. scientists -- rank: 1000

Mark Jones wrote: >N P Childs: > >> Thanks for the advice, but no thanks. I'll take my cues from someone who >> isn't inbred and doesn't have a vested interest in sucking up to >> the C of E. > > Really, you Americans out to get your brains into gear before you engage >your mouths. At 12:13 PM -0700 5/17/00, N P Childs wrote: >N Paul Childs >5967-157 Avenue >Edmonton, Alberta, Canada >T5Y 2P3 Unless you mean "North Americans," of course. ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed May 17 12:02:54 PDT 2000

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Max Sawicky wrote: >It might or, evidently, might not, but what we're >interested in is employment and living standards. >Cuz we're a bunch o' bolsheviki, so to speak. > >In the latter regard, the past two years have >been exceptional and if that sort of thing continued >the trade issue would wither away. But it's a little >premature to attribute the correlates of 3.9% >unemployment to recent trade liberalization. >By contrast, the withering of manufacturing >an ...

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Date:	Wed May 17 12:01:33 PDT 2000

34452 Clintonoids Serve Up Mud Pie Analysis -- rank: 1000

Andrew English wrote: >I think the issue is more the composition of the workforce rather than >the level of unemployment. Without trade liberalization of the last few >years, more of the working class >would still be higher-wage, more unionized manufacturing sectors and less of >it in the low-wage, mostly non-union >private service sectors (retail, etc). But the average real hourly wage has risen - and not just the average, but across the entire distribution, for both men &am ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed May 17 11:41:50 PDT 2000

34453 Clintonoids Serve Up Mud Pie Analysis -- rank: 1000

Max Sawicky quoted: >The manufacturing sector lost 341,000 jobs in 1999. -250,000, Dec 98-99; total job gain, 2.7 million. -101,000, Apr 99-00; total job gain, 3 million. Manufacturing has gained 217,000 since NAFTA took effect. Manufacturing production was up 4.9%, Dec 98-99; it's up 5.9%, Mar 99-00. Manufacturing production is up 39% since NAFTA took effect. If NAFTA were damaging the manufacturing sector as much as you say, wouldn't that show up in production? Isn't rising output and flatt ...

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Date:	Wed May 17 11:15:21 PDT 2000

34454 Prince Charles v. scientists -- rank: 1000

Carl Remick wrote: >Into the Slough of Despond with you then, m'lad. I couldn't agree >more wholeheartedly with PC. (That great transatlantic retching >sound you hear is no doubt J. Heartfield.) Really? Sense of the sacred? Endowments from our Creator? Hw sounds like a cross between Jerry Mander and Vaclav Havel, only he's from a family that once claimed a special connection to the Divine. Onward and upward with genetic technology! Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed May 17 11:05:28 PDT 2000

34455 Prince Charles v. scientists -- rank: 1000

Carl Remick wrote: >[Recalling Doug's great fondness for HRH Charles, I thought I'd pass >on the following Guardian article, which I just noticed Mark Jones >posted on, ah, another list.] > >Angry Charles warns scientists of disaster > >John Vidal and James Meek > >Wednesday May 17, 2000 > >The Guardian > >Prince Charles's simmering anger with the direction of some modern >science will tonight blow into a philosophical storm as he argues >that the onl ...

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Date:	Wed May 17 10:33:16 PDT 2000