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3436 [lbo-talk] on the transformation problem -- rank: 1000

On Jul 20, 2010, at 2:57 PM, Shane Mage wrote: > Considering that I spent years in that endeavor, with solid theoretical and empirical results, in my dissertation: *The "Law of the"Falling Tendency of the Rate of Profit": It's Place in the Marxian Theoretical System and Relevance to the US Economy*, What was what, 50 years ago? What subsequent insights did all this work yield? Doug

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Date:	Tue Jul 20 15:36:19 PDT 2010

3437 [lbo-talk] on the transformation problem -- rank: 1000

On Jul 20, 2010, at 1:33 PM, John Gulick wrote: > Yeah. Exchange value and surplus value are "concrete abstractions." Market prices and capitalist > profits are empirical phenomena. Even if you're an orthodox value theory zealot, you recognize that > the former and the latter don't directly map onto one another, because of the way in which firm > and sectoral differentials in the organic composition of capital reallocate surplus value. In any event, > after toying around ...

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Date:	Tue Jul 20 10:44:18 PDT 2010

3438 [lbo-talk] propaganda works -- rank: 1000

On Jul 20, 2010, at 11:30 AM, MICHAEL YATES wrote: > I was watching the news on a Seattle TV station. There was a segment on an air show at the local Air Force > base. A woman with her young daughter was interviewed. She was impressed with the big planes and said that when > she and her daughter were under the wing of one of them the Star Spangled Banner started to go through her head. It's not just propaganda - there's an element of identification with imperial power. By being part ...

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Date:	Tue Jul 20 08:44:16 PDT 2010

3439 [lbo-talk] Hitler and BP: a conspiracy so immense -- rank: 1000

[420, man] Editor Left Business Observer Brooklyn, New York, USA July 19, 2010 Dear Editor, BP CEO Tony Hayward's unloading of a third of his personal holdings in BP a month before the Gulf Accident, along with other coincidences (pointed out in "Pandora's Box" at Common Dreams News Center, 7/18), renders very slightly noticeable the date of the catastrophe, April 20th, which was, coincidentally, Adolf Hitler's birthday.

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Date:	Mon Jul 19 15:12:32 PDT 2010

3440 [lbo-talk] why are white southerners so violent? -- rank: 1000

On Jul 19, 2010, at 3:50 PM, Alan Rudy wrote: > I've now read it, and not surprisingly given my previous comment I'm with > Michael, this is silly. An "economic" foundation 150 or more years ago - > not reinforced by economics since that time - for a culture of > honor/violence that generates higher murder rates (but not other crimes and > murder rates which are a proxy for defending one's family/personal honor) in > the present. > > There's at least one other ...

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Date:	Mon Jul 19 13:22:50 PDT 2010

3441 [lbo-talk] TP -- rank: 1000

On Jul 19, 2010, at 2:45 PM, Michael Pollak wrote: > On Mon, 19 Jul 2010, Doug Henwood wrote: > >> In a phrase: they're very white and very right. > > Sounds like a good ad slogan for retro underpants. Not much like these, then: http://www.freshpair.com/Piss-Vinegar-I-Love-Boys-Low-Rise-Brief-10061030.html?from=cab

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Date:	Mon Jul 19 11:54:36 PDT 2010

3442 [lbo-talk] TP -- rank: 1000

Back to the old Tea Party story, Greenberg et al take a close look: http://www.democracycorps.com/strategy/2010/07/special-report-on-the-tea-party-movement/?section=Analysis In a phrase: they're very white and very right. Doug

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Date:	Mon Jul 19 11:31:37 PDT 2010

3443 [lbo-talk] why are white southerners so violent? -- rank: 1000

On Jul 19, 2010, at 12:49 AM, Miles Jackson wrote: > Yes, social psychologists have been studying this for about 15 years now. Dov Cohen's done a lot of work on this. Here's a link to a 1996 JPSP article: > > http://chiron.valdosta.edu/mawhatley/7670/activity/honor.htm >From the Grosjean paper: > One of the main contributions of this paper is to integrate economic and cultural evolutionary > theories of crime. The main message is that the economic factors underlying criminal ...

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Date:	Sun Jul 18 21:23:01 PDT 2010

3444 [lbo-talk] Theories of surplus value -- rank: 1000

On Jul 18, 2010, at 5:40 PM, Julio Huato wrote: > Similarly, Carrol doesn't think that overcoming in practice the > reality of value, i.e. abolishing commodity production, requires our > understanding all this stuff. We'll either abolish commodity > production by chance or we won't. In other words, revolutionary > practice does not need revolutionary theory. There's a certain kind of intellectual that likes to say things like that, isn't there? Doug

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Date:	Sun Jul 18 14:48:03 PDT 2010

3445 [lbo-talk] On reality and thought -- rank: 1000

On Jul 18, 2010, at 5:25 PM, Julio Huato wrote: > "It is not enough for thought to strive for realization, reality must > itself strive towards thought." > > http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1843/critique-hpr/intro.htm If I were Harold Bloom, I might say this sounds like Marx had read too much Adorno. Doug

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Date:	Sun Jul 18 14:43:41 PDT 2010

3446 [lbo-talk] why are white southerners so violent? -- rank: 1000

On Jul 18, 2010, at 3:31 PM, Michael Smith wrote: > Having grown up in one of these "areas", I might mention > that *everybody* is an "acquaintance". There are no strangers > to kill. In fact there are no non-relatives to kill. If > you kill somebody, he's gonna be a third cousin > twice removed. At best. I'm always amazed at how much more people know off the top of their heads than people who've done extensive research. They're all just pointy-heads, after all ...

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Date:	Sun Jul 18 13:28:54 PDT 2010

3447 [lbo-talk] why are white southerners so violent? -- rank: 1000

On Jul 18, 2010, at 2:39 PM, Joseph Catron wrote: > crime rates can be caused by anything, and > causation is notoriously hard to prove. Well, among other things, her research shows that killing of acquaintances really stand out in the Scots-Irish areas; killings of strangers and other forms of crime aren't out of line.

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Date:	Sun Jul 18 11:52:03 PDT 2010

3448 [lbo-talk] why are white southerners so violent? -- rank: 1000

On Jul 18, 2010, at 2:26 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: > So why not respond just > to the abstract of this article? Man's first disobedience? How boring! Who cares about a first anything? That was so long ago. Why are we disobedient today? Must be some use for it! First has nothing to do with anything. Doug

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Date:	Sun Jul 18 11:33:43 PDT 2010

3449 [lbo-talk] why are white southerners so violent? -- rank: 1000

On Jul 18, 2010, at 1:48 PM, Joseph Catron wrote: > Well, as I said, this theory isn't a new one, and while this paper may break > some new ground, the abstract doesn't give me any reason to expect it. So you've seen research broken down to the county level, with data on ethnic patterns and farming practices going back to the 1790s, related to rates of various specific types of crimes? Doug

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Date:	Sun Jul 18 11:19:03 PDT 2010

3450 [lbo-talk] why are white southerners so violent? -- rank: 1000

On Jul 18, 2010, at 12:37 PM, c b wrote: > Probably , a complementary reductionist (but valid) argument, > with this component a stronger influence than the history back in > Britain, is that the Southern culture was prone to violence because so > much violence had to be deployed to conquer the Indigenous Peoples and > suppress and work the African slaves. The honor thing is just a > shockingly hypocritical and phony rationale. I love how many people are commenting on this pa ...

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