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34126 Alterman: Left in Shambles -- rank: 1000

Doug Henwood wrote: >Art McGee wrote: > >>I think that there's >>also a valid criticism to made of the Left that they often >>fail to ignore the damage that self-hatred and self-sabotage >>do to people. > >Does that include voting for Democrats? I wasn't being flippant with that question. All the liberals who normally despise "identity" claims - Eric Alterman prominent among them - have been citing Gore's near-90% share of the black vote as proof of ...

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Date:	Mon Nov 13 17:17:04 PST 2000

34127 Alterman: Left in Shambles -- rank: 1000

Art McGee wrote: >I think that there's >also a valid criticism to made of the Left that they often >fail to ignore the damage that self-hatred and self-sabotage >do to people. Does that include voting for Democrats? Doug

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Date:	Mon Nov 13 17:12:03 PST 2000

34128 best sellers -- rank: 1000

For a relief from the Perpetual Election, check out the best selling albums of all time: <http://hometown.aol.com/PaulHry/music/riaa.html>. Doug

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Date:	Mon Nov 13 17:00:19 PST 2000

34129 Fwd: Elections USA : The state-of-the-art -- rank: 1000

Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 17:33:28 -0500 From: Brasscheck <ken at brasscheck.com> November 13, 2000 Elections USA : The state-of-the-art Sound familiar? It does to San Franciscans use read the Internet. (Best in-depth coverage of election fraud in a US election: http://www.brasscheck.com/stadium ) Wisconsin Election VoteScam Fraud And 'Incidents' http://www.jsonline.com/election2000/nov00/fraud-list111000.asp 11-12-00 GOP's list of voter irregularities in Milwaukee Updated 11-10-00 Following ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Nov 13 15:28:11 PST 2000

34130 Wilentz & Gitlin's creative approach to petitions -- rank: 1000

>Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 17:23:20 -0500 >From: Jon Wiener <Jon_Wiener at compuserve.com> > >this is a shocker: the Sean Wilentz-Todd Gitlin ad seems to have been >flawed: >This from Cass Sunstein: > >>>Friends: This is to let you know that I did NOT see or approve, and do >not approve of, the Saturday advertisement in the NY Times which included a >number of alleged "signatories," including me. (The ad calls, far too >prematurely and hence ir ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Nov 13 14:44:49 PST 2000

34131 BW on EC -- rank: 1000

Nathan Newman wrote: >Now you are getting logically circular. You argue that the base cannot >elect progressive leadership. Then when I point out that they have elected >progressive leadership, the fact that those progressive leaders are part of >the party is used to prove the illegitimacy of the party. Circlar in the sense of going around in circles maybe. Jackson energizes progressive base in primaries. Having done so, he turns around and urges said energized base to vote for Mon ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Nov 13 14:40:41 PST 2000

34132 BW on EC -- rank: 1000

Chuck0 wrote: >What's Jackson done for his "base" recently? Does that book that he >wrote with his son on African-American entrepeneurship count? Don't forget his inspiring Wall Street Project! Doug

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Date:	Mon Nov 13 14:42:19 PST 2000

34133 BW on EC -- rank: 1000

Nathan Newman wrote: >Some of us remember Jackson in the Rainbow Coalition and still recognize >that Democratic leadership folks like David Bonior and John Conyers can go >head-to-head with Nader on progressive credentials. > >Jackson, Bonior and Conyers all received their votes from that base. Exactly. When push comes to shove, these people will all campaign for the party. They're the mechanisms by which the base is bound to that corrupt structure. Jackson could've broken in '88, ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Nov 13 13:37:40 PST 2000

34134 NYC voting problems -- rank: 1000

[Not only in Florida. From City Limits' weekly.] NEW VOTERS, OLD PROBLEMS Florida isn't the only place where things get weird come Election Day. Last week, some of the city's newest citizens got a first-hand lesson in voting, American style. In leaving their homelands behind, they may have escaped voter obstacles like intimidation, harassment and blatant ballot fraud. But they do have to reckon with a whole new set of obstacles--namely, the bizarre voting machines and the unaccountable bureaucra ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Nov 13 13:32:54 PST 2000

34135 BW on EC -- rank: 1000

Nathan Newman wrote: > I think it is better to >start with the better base and work to improve the leadership elected by it. In what sense is the leadership "elected" by the base? The base is bound to the structure, and presented with a choice of which dismal servant of capital they prefer to betray them over the next four years. Doug

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Date:	Mon Nov 13 11:37:24 PST 2000

34136 BW on Ralph -- rank: 1000

[if I had Eric Alterman's email address I'd forward this to him] Business Week - November 20, 2000 Commentary: The Punishing Price of Nader's Passion By Paul Magnusson You have to hand this much to Ralph Nader: He can take the heat. Despite pleas and bluster from labor leaders, environmentalists, and feminists to drop out and effectively throw his support to Vice-President Al Gore, the 66-year-old left-wing crusader stayed his lonely course. Even as it became clear that Nader's Green Party candi ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Nov 13 10:57:12 PST 2000

34137 BW on EC -- rank: 1000

Richard S. Dunham, "Why the Electoral College Lives On," Business Week, November 20, 2000: > Indeed, there have been periodic crusades to abolish the college. >But they failed to win much support from many states. And for good >reason: If the Electoral College were abolished, candidates would >have little incentive to visit less populated states. Nominees would >concentrate on big cities and population states, mainly in the >Northeast and California. ''Their time w ...

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Date:	Mon Nov 13 10:48:21 PST 2000

34138 Summary of Nader analysis -- rank: 1000

Max Sawicky wrote: >jan carowan wrote: >>I see that you have learned Mr Henwood's repulsion for rational > >Given your high-flown diction, I'm tempted to conclude that you're >just an intellectual prank. Having fun? >Doug > > >that occurred to me also. I'd say it's Louie, >but Louie wouldn't push JC's line. My vote is >it's really Nathan. Or maybe Todd Gitlin. Eric Alterman? Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Nov 13 09:25:08 PST 2000

34139 Alterman: Left in Shambles -- rank: 1000

Max Sawicky wrote: >Note also the >back-handed support for the revisionist social-imperialist >neo-capitalist so-called Peoples Republic of China. In an otherwise flawless and compelling analysis, this deficient formulation sticks out like the proverbial sore thumb (made sore, no doubt, through repeated dull and dangerous labor under the whip of capital): the proper Spart formulation would be "like an imperialist dagger aimed straight at the heart of the deformed workers state of C ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Nov 13 09:10:41 PST 2000

34140 [Meta] Summary of Nader analysis -- rank: 1000

Do the math (I haven't, but Dan Lazare did on my radio show the other night): the number of states that would lose representation by the abolition of the electoral college is greater than the number necessary to block a constitutional amendment. So barring an outbreak of enlightened selflessness, the electoral college is here to stay, just like that other abomination, the Senate. Doug

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Date:	Mon Nov 13 08:43:02 PST 2000