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31186 Crime not War (Re: Arguments for ground war - forget it) -- rank: 1000

Justin Schwartz wrote: >>The U.S. attack on Afghanistan is definitely illegal pursuant to >>international law. The U.S. doesn't have the legal right to attack >>a country because it harbors criminals. This is outrageous from a >>legal standpoint. > >Right. So you don't buy the UN resolutions? Doug

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31187 Arguments for ground war - forget it -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >>>Max, I'm curious. Do you think the Afghan civilians who died because of >>>our bombardment deservere any sort of consideration? Should the US >>>compensate their relatives? Do we owe them anything? >> >>A massive reconstruction and development program. Anything less >>would be criminal neglect. > >A pie in the sky! So you don't argue for it anyway? You argue for socialist revolution, which is even more pie in the sk ...

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31188 way back when -- rank: 1000

[bounced bec of some attached MIME code] Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 16:47:51 -0600 From: "Forstater, Mathew" <ForstaterM at umkc.edu> Age-set organization is not a class hierarchy. First, everyone passes through the age-grades (for as long as they live), so there are no static status positions. Second, in most (if not all) cases there are institutional mechanisms for limiting the power of the senior age grades. For example, in East Africa, there are junior and senior sub-grades for e ...

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Date:	Wed Nov 21 14:53:38 PST 2001

31189 Conspiracy Theory as Clutter [Fwd: Re: Dumb gets dumber] -- rank: 1000

ravi wrote: >here's a deal: i'll sell you my quota in this fashion: $10 for 1 post/day >for 1 month, $15 for 2 post/day for 1 month, and you get 3 posts free per >week for any post you make that reflects a pro-relativist or pacifist Sorry, posting privileges cannot be transferred. Next thing you know, people will be trading the right to pollute! Doug

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31190 Fwd: The Parisian Taliban -- rank: 1000

[Norman Finkelstein is being sued in France for his holocaust book. Here's an appeal he's circulating.] From: "Norman Finkelstein" <normangf at hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 16:27:55 -0500 >From: joelle marelli >To: >Subject: (from Eric Hazan) >Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:54:29 +0100 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from [193.252.19.160] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id >MHotMailBDC24E07006B4136E813C1FC13A0B2CC0; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 05:03:04 >-0800 >Rec ...

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31191 Arguments for ground war - forget it -- rank: 1000

Seth Ackerman wrote: >The US deliberately did not seek explicit authorization from the Security >Council. But all permanent members and most of the others expressed their >verbal support for military action. Ian Williams cited two General Assembly resolutions. I don't have my copy of the mag here, so I can't give their numbers. Also, didn't Congress pass something very much like a declaration of war? I'm a bit confused by people who've said they didn't. Doug

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31192 oil angle -- rank: 1000

[bounced bec of extraneous html code] Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:46:02 -0500 From: Mark Pavlick <mvp1 at igc.org> Pipeline Politics: Oil, gas and the US interest in Afghanistan Richard Tanter Oil and gas are not the reason the US has attacked Afghanistan, but Afghanistan has long had a key place in US plans to secure control of the vast but landlocked oil and gas reserves of Central Asia. Though the primary US motivation is to destroy Osama bin Laden's sanctuary in Afghanistan, another, rat ...

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Date:	Wed Nov 21 12:59:29 PST 2001

31193 Arguments for ground war - forget it -- rank: 1000

brettk at unicacorp.com wrote: >That's a good point. If al-Qaeda really was part of the Taliban, then we >really would have been at war with Afghanistan. ObL certainly says there >is a war against the US, and if he's speaking as a member of the Afghan >government, then you're correct. > >I'm open to this possibility, but I haven't seen anything to convince me of >it yet. And is this really the position of the Bush Administration? I've >always heard them say that the T ...

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31194 Arguments for ground war - forget it -- rank: 1000

brettk at unicacorp.com wrote: >Well, I disagree. War against al-Qaeda is as absurd to me as war against >the mafia. Al-Qaeda is not a nation, but an organization, and as such it >should be the target of an international law enforcement effort. According to official tales, which may or may not be true, al Qaeda has thousands of members, and became indistinguishable from the Taliban rulers of Afghanistan, with an army of many thousands more. That's a bit bigger that La Cosa Nostra. Peo ...

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31195 US-UK tensions -- rank: 1000

[from the WB's daily clipping service] AMERICA IS 'TURNING ITS BACK' ON POVERTY: U.K.'S SHORT, COMMENTATORS. British International Development Secretary Clare Short yesterday criticized America for not fully understanding how tackling global poverty could help to defeat international terrorism, reports the Daily Telegraph (UK). Speaking to the House of Commons international development committee on the humanitarian crisis in Afghanistan, Short said America was "almost turning its back" ...

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31196 Pre-historic human societies -- rank: 1000

Barry Rene DeCicco wrote: >That reminds me - anybody got a derogatory nickname for >the Review? On another forum, somebody came up with >Wall Street Urinal, for the WSJ. That's not fair! The news pages are among the best in U.S. journalism. The front page is a daily masterpiece. Doug

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31197 garrison state? -- rank: 1000

Washington Post - November 21, 2001 Military Favors a Homeland Command Forces May Shift To Patrolling U.S. By Bradley Graham The nation's top military authorities favor appointing a four-star commander to coordinate federal troops used in homeland defense, part of a broad reorganization that Pentagon officials say could change some forces' primary mission from waging war overseas to patrolling at home. Although the Pentagon has regional commanders in chief, known as CINCs, who are responsible fo ...

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Date:	Wed Nov 21 11:22:54 PST 2001

31198 Conspiracy Theory as Clutter [Fwd: Re: Dumb gets dumber] -- rank: 1000

Hakki Alacakaptan wrote: >Great, after the lynch party, the veiled threat. Kelley posted 13, not that >I'm complaining. Lynch party, that's cute. How Clarence Thomas. Kelley, please throttle back too. Doug

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Date:	Wed Nov 21 11:14:57 PST 2001

31199 political compass -- rank: 1000

Lou Paulsen wrote: >I trust this will dispel any of those unfounded rumors about us in WWP being >"authoritarian socialists" ;-) So what's the structure of WWP? Is there a chair, a politburo, a central committee, some ruling body that sets out the line? Doug

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31200 Arguments for ground war - forget it -- rank: 1000

Brad DeLong wrote: >Thus to the extent that the case for the war was based on what >Al-Qaeda was about to do rather than what it had done, that case >seems somewhat weaker today than it seemed to me in mid-September... So what conclusion do you draw from this? Bush made a mistake? That he's a liar and a war criminal? What? Doug

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