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31126 On Selective Pacifism & other Oddities -- rank: 1000

ravi wrote: >i am once again puzzled by this line of reasoning, since i do not see >"fall silent" as the next act to what michael writes (or what other >people, broadly referred to as "pacifists" write). all of these people >including michael have been and are doing various things to bring >about the kind of changes they think will make a better world. I'm all for doing those things to make a better world, and saying it to a broad audience, too. But that's a lo ...

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Date:	Thu Nov 29 11:10:32 PST 2001

31127 the U.S. is and was not in reasonable fear of war from Afghanistan. -- rank: 1000

Charles Brown wrote: >CB: None of the Sept. 11 perpatrators are in Afghanistan. Except the apparent paymaster. Financial Times - November 29, 2001 SPECIAL REPORT INSIDE AL-QAEDA: Trail of terrorist dollars that spans the world: Suitcases of cash, informal money transfers, standard banking procedures - al-Qaeda used them all to pay the bills of terrorism, reports John Willman By JOHN WILLMAN The financing arrangements for the September 11 attacks on the US appear to have gone unnoticed by secu ...

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Date:	Thu Nov 29 10:58:55 PST 2001

31128 On Selective Pacifism & other Oddities -- rank: 1000

Kelley wrote: >you have CC and others trying to find ways to dismiss what they did >as somehow justified because they are angr people, angry at US >policies. "Collateral damage," says CC of the dead. In what war, he didn't specify. Doug

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Date:	Thu Nov 29 10:28:29 PST 2001

31129 On anti-Communism -- rank: 1000

Michael Pugliese wrote: > My anti-Communism If this is a reaction to what I said about the Hit List piece, the anti-Communism I'm referring to is a broader anti-leftism. It treats any critique of NATO, or U.S. imperialism, as otherworldly. It made fun of William Kunstler in conventional ways. The bits about Israel and Palestine sound almost like the New Republic. Doug

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Date:	Thu Nov 29 10:24:37 PST 2001

31130 D2 -- rank: 1000

Jeet Heer wrote: >Nope, not a joke. I've seen some Walk for Capitalism posters up in >Toronto. It seems to be organized by Randians, although the >web-sites don't make that clear (a front group, perhaps?). Who's this Melbourne radio dude who's the brains behind it - Prodos? Doug

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Date:	Thu Nov 29 09:15:53 PST 2001

31131 D2 -- rank: 1000

Is this a joke? <http://www.walkforcapitalism.org/index.html#cities>. Doug

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Date:	Thu Nov 29 09:02:02 PST 2001

31132 On Selective Pacifism & other Oddities -- rank: 1000

Michael Perelman wrote: >Doug, I am not an expert. We got ObL out of Sudan. What about the story >that Sudan offered to give him up. Also, if the terrorists (70,000) are >scattered around the world, bombing seems like an ineffective means of >stopping them. > >I don't pretend to have the answers. My only certainty is that we are >given very shabby information. We're back where we were a couple of months ago: an answer like this is a political dead-end. To an American non ...

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Date:	Thu Nov 29 07:32:54 PST 2001

31133 On Selective Pacifism & other Oddities -- rank: 1000

Hakki Alacakaptan wrote: >You know, I can accept that some people may still not be convinced that this >war is not about the US making good on its declared strategy of hegemony >over Central Asia. So why does it look like the U.S. is prepared to leave Afg as soon as it can, and seems unenthusiastic about a UN peacekeeping force? Doug

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Date:	Thu Nov 29 07:14:15 PST 2001

31134 Taliban/Birmingham -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >RAWA (whose agenda should be perfectly harmless to the Empire) Why do you say that? What do you see as RAWA's agenda? Is the "Revolutionary" part of their name simply gestural? Doug

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Date:	Thu Nov 29 07:09:15 PST 2001

31135 On Selective Pacifism & other Oddities -- rank: 1000

Michael Perelman wrote: >I am skeptical about anything that I read now. If they are using >leaderless resistence, ObL may not have known about the details; if he did >the Taliban may not have known. > >I just don't know. Even if a few Taliban leaders knew, .... > >I just hope that you and I don't get bombed for the crap that our >government pulls. Yesterday, the Financial Times began a series investigating al Qaeda. Not much new in yesterday's installment - haven't gott ...

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Date:	Thu Nov 29 07:02:14 PST 2001

31136 weird site -- rank: 1000

<http://www.Securitate.org>

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31137 Hit List on WWP -- rank: 1000

So I read that Hit List piece on WWP/IAC last night (thanks to Thomas Seay for sending it). It seems marred by a serious case of anti-Communism, though the author's politics are otherwise murky. For example, it takes IAC/WWP to task for calling for an end to NATO. What's wrong with that? But it does make a few interesting points - one, that WWP has totally effaced its Trot past. Party histories never mention its origins in the SWP, and the Sam Marcy bio never mentions his membership. Apparently ...

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31138 On Selective Pacifism & other Oddities -- rank: 1000

Max Sawicky wrote: >CCox: >I come back to my initial judgment: the phrase "selective pacifist" is >is seriously bad writing -- and one can't take seriously any discourse >which seriously uses the term. (How's that for using a word three times >in one sentence with a different sense every time.) Carrol > >mbs: I have to say, in all honesty, I really, really don't understand >your argument. The sense of it completely escapes me. It annoys Carrol, therefore it' ...

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Date:	Thu Nov 29 06:48:29 PST 2001

31139 lbo-talk-digest V1 #5348 SF event -- rank: 1000

paul childs wrote: > >*DOUG HENWOOD - editor of the 'the left business observer' >>newsletter, author of 'wall street' and the forthcoming 'a new >>economy' >> >Really? Just to nag, what's forthcoming mean these days? What it always did - sometime in the near future. Doug

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Date:	Wed Nov 28 15:38:52 PST 2001

31140 Oscar Olivera -- rank: 1000

From: Neil Watkins <neil at econjustice.net> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 18:07:23 -0500 Dear Friends, Our friend, brother and comrade, Oscar Olivera is in trouble. Oscar, as you know, was one of the leaders that led a movement to successfully reverse water privatization here in Bolivia. Today he was arrested on charges of, among other things, "sedition, conspiracy, instigating public disorder, and criminal association." Oscar's crime? Leading protests against water privatization. In a ...

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