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30961 Fish weighs in -- rank: 1000

Carl Remick wrote: >>From: Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> >> >>New York Times - October 15, 2001 >> >>Condemnation Without Absolutes >>BY STANLEY FISH >> >>... But if by relativism one means the practice of putting yourself in >>your adversary's shoes, not in order to wear them as your own but in >>order to have some understanding (far short of approval) of why >>someone else might want to wear them, then relativism wi ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Oct 15 15:54:35 PDT 2001

30962 Right Advice: Kelly -- rank: 1000

Travis Fast wrote: > Are you always this touchy or is it just when you masturbate in public? Uh, that's not very nice. No reason to get so hostile. Listmom

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Oct 15 15:51:38 PDT 2001

30963 US feeding Taliban -- rank: 1000

BBC Online - Monday, 15 October, 2001, 18:31 GMT 19:31 UK UN says US 'feeding Taleban' A United Nations official has harshly condemned the United States policy of dropping food aid to Afghanistan while bombing the country. Jean Ziegler, whose job is to defend the right to food, described the US actions as "totally catastrophic for humanitarian aid". Separately, the UN children's agency Unicef warned on Monday that 100,000 Afghan children could die this winter unless food reaches them b ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Oct 15 14:41:24 PDT 2001

30964 Right Advice -- rank: 1000

Chuck0 wrote: >Well, that's my gut feeling. I'm really curious who you think is your base, and who are potential recruits to your version of anarchism, and what contribution, if any, flag burning makes to building your movement. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Oct 15 12:36:26 PDT 2001

30965 Fish weighs in -- rank: 1000

New York Times - October 15, 2001 Condemnation Without Absolutes BY STANLEY FISH CHICAGO -- During the interval between the terrorist attacks and the United States response, a reporter called to ask me if the events of Sept. 11 meant the end of postmodernist relativism. It seemed bizarre that events so serious would be linked causally with a rarefied form of academic talk. But in the days that followed, a growing number of commentators played serious variations on the same theme: that the ideas ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Oct 15 12:02:12 PDT 2001

30966 Right Advice -- rank: 1000

Chuck0 wrote: >I stand by my words about flag-waving. You bring an American flag to a >demo these days, be prepared to see it burn. Fucking hell, Chuck. I can see not wanting to wave a flag - I couldn't do it myself. But burning it? What does that accomplish except to marginalize yourself? You're not going to win any friends that way. And you'd alienate people like me, who aren't terribly sympathetic to the "reclaim the flag" argument, but still see no point in such acting out. W ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Oct 15 11:43:24 PDT 2001

30967 Discussion of Empire, London -- rank: 1000

Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 17:09:20 -0700 From: Sebastian Budgen <sebastian at amadeobordiga.u-net.com> Historical Materialism: Research in Critical Marxist Theory and the Centre for International Studies and Diplomacy, SOAS, invite you to a roundtable discussion between Michael Hardt, Simon Bromley and Alex Callinicos of the book EMPIRE (Antonio Negri & Michael Hardt) and the themes it raises. Friday 26 October 2001, 18.30, Brunei Gallery Lecture Theatre, SOAS, Thornhaugh Street, Russell ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Oct 15 11:34:37 PDT 2001

30968 Cooper weighs in -- rank: 1000

Mina Kumar wrote: >The funny thing is that I was in BK on 9/11 and it utterly permeated >the reaction of the Clinton apologists, Wall St. financiers and >other not particularly leftist people I know. BK = Berkeley? Burger King? Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Oct 15 11:15:01 PDT 2001

30969 "Hate America" Left -- rank: 1000

Carl Remick wrote: >>From: "Randy Steindorf" <grsteindorf at hotmail.com> >> >>Or a Marx said about the League of the Just motto: "All men are brothers," >>there are some men I don't want as brothers. Thus he replaced that motto >>with "workers of the world, unite." > >Actually, I think Oscar Wilde said it best: "The brotherhood of man >is no mere poet's dream, it is a most depressing and humiliating >reality.&q ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Oct 15 11:12:52 PDT 2001

30970 waive the flag -- rank: 1000

Stephen E Philion wrote: >Nader charged that, "thought police in Washington dismiss all >critical analysis a as justifying the terrorist attack," calling for >a rejection of that notion while describing the terrorists' act as, >"criminal butchery, a massacre more than an attack, and with no >justification". He urged the audience to, "never allow Washington to >tell you to shut up, get in line, and waive the flag." Is someone's unconscious speaking? ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Oct 15 11:02:59 PDT 2001

30971 Fwd: More Testosterone = Less Cipro -- rank: 1000

[a view from the right] From: "Bull Moose" <bullmoose at mail.conservativereform.org> To: <updates at conservativereform.org> Subject: More Testosterone = Less Cipro Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 08:39:27 -0400 PROJECT FOR CONSERVATIVE REFORM http://www.conservativereform.org The Moose issues this breaking news bulletin to our libertarian friends - big government is not the enemy, radical Islamic/Arab terrorism is. The Moose is still suffering from Tourette's over the House GOP fo ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Oct 15 06:52:12 PDT 2001

30972 rebuilding Afghanistan -- rank: 1000

Wall Street Journal - October 15, 2001 Rebuilding Afghanistan By Barnett R. Rubin and Ashraf Ghani. Mr. Rubin, author of "The Fragmentation of Afghanistan" (Yale University Press, 1995), is director of studies at the Center on International Cooperation, New York University. Mr. Ghani is a professor of anthropology at The Johns Hopkins University. President Bush has recognized that the U.S. has to do more than "just simply leave after a military objective has been achieved" in ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Oct 15 06:40:43 PDT 2001

30973 Afghanistan/oil? -- rank: 1000

Angelita Manzano wrote: >I have a question for you. Some of the things I've >read say that Afghanistan is one of most "mineral >rich" countries, others say that there's not much of >monetary value (besides opium) . . . and a some >activists say this all boils down to oil . . . Partisans of the oil angle, I have a question. The U.S. was attacked, and it's not implausible that it was planned by ObL, who is based in Afghanistan, and that his operatives were trained there. S ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Oct 14 15:39:27 PDT 2001

30974 attackers didn't know they were to die -- rank: 1000

Observer (London) - October 14, 2001 Attackers did not know they were to die David Rose FBI investigators have officially concluded that 11 of the 19 terrorists who hijacked the aircraft on 11 September did not know they were on a suicide mission, Whitehall intelligence sources said last night. Unlike the eight 'lead' attackers, who were all trained pilots, they did not leave messages for friends and family indicating they knew their lives were over. None of them had copies of the instructions f ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Oct 14 15:15:09 PDT 2001

30975 Cooper weighs in -- rank: 1000

Los Angeles Times - October 14, 2001 LEFT AND RIGHT Liberals Stuck in Scold Mode By MARC COOPER Marc Cooper is a contributing editor to The Nation magazine and a columnist for L.A. Weekly It called itself a peace rally. But if you watched the first major post-Sept. 11 anti-war demonstration on C-SPAN two weekends ago, it was really more a self-caricature of an American left that has struggled unsuccessfully since the attacks to find its proper national voice and posture. There were just about th ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Oct 14 13:07:30 PDT 2001