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30751 Antiwar movement losing steam????? -- rank: 1000

Chuck0 wrote: >Dennis wrote: etc. C'mon boys. If you must, take it outside, please. Doug

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Date:	Tue Oct 30 11:54:58 PST 2001

30752 Antiwar movement losing steam????? -- rank: 1000

Kelley wrote: >At 01:54 PM 10/30/01 -0500, Doug Henwood wrote: >>Kelley wrote: >> >>>I don't see where he's identified charismatic authority? >> >>The secret leader. >> >>Doug > > >that's not what charismatic authority means. And how do you think this secret leader operates if not by charismatic authority? Not by police power or bureaucratic imperative, for sure. Doug

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Date:	Tue Oct 30 11:11:04 PST 2001

30753 Antiwar movement losing steam????? -- rank: 1000

Kelley wrote: >I don't see where he's identified charismatic authority? The secret leader. Doug

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Date:	Tue Oct 30 10:54:27 PST 2001

30754 Antiwar movement losing steam????? -- rank: 1000

Kelley wrote: >the difference is the element of charismatic authority. anarchists >don't have that, yet. Slavoj begs to differ. From my forthcoming interview with the Sage of Ljubljana in Punk Planet: >Lots of Punk Planet readers have been influenced by anarchism, and >in general, anarchism plays a big role in American radical politics >and countercultures. Do you have any thoughts on this influence? > I certainly can understand where the appeal of anarchism lies. My >pro ...

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Date:	Tue Oct 30 10:32:01 PST 2001

30755 For Coincidence Doubters -- rank: 1000

Carrol Cox wrote: >The evidence for intention in the double-bombing of the Red Cross >warehouse does _not_ lie in the far-fetchedness of the coincidence. Such >coincidences are run-of-the-mill, and such unlikely accidents are >_bound_ to happen. But the evidence presented in the article that Doug >reposted from the WV as to the basic military strategy of the U.S. in >respect to air power does suggest that the targeting was deliberate. >That article makes it _likely_ that non ...

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Date:	Tue Oct 30 10:25:05 PST 2001

30756 lbo-talk-digest V1 #5178 -- rank: 1000

Hakki Alacakaptan wrote: >I've browsed through some recent US military writing and >it seems that all that US strategists are interested in are cyberwars and >star wars-type hitech systems. Or as someone put it in an article in the Atlantic recently, the CIA doesn't want any part of assignments that include diarrhea. Doug

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Date:	Tue Oct 30 08:26:45 PST 2001

30757 Pakistan debt, Central Asian drought -- rank: 1000

[from the WB's daily clipping service] U.S. BACKS BILLIONS OF NEW AID FOR PAKISTAN. The US said yesterday it would support billions of dollars worth of new loans to Pakistan for the coming year and support generous terms for Paris Club debt restructuring, reports Reuters. "We intend to support negotiation of a new three-year $2 billion program with the IMF for Pakistan," US State Department spokesman Richard Boucher is quoted as saying. "In addition, we'll also support a range o ...

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Date:	Tue Oct 30 07:41:00 PST 2001

30758 Fwd: [cultstud-l] Re: 911 -- rank: 1000

From: "Michael de Socio" <desoc001 at hotmail.com> To: "CULTSTUD-L: A listserv devoted to Cultural Studies" <cultstud-l at lists.acomp.usf.edu> Subject: [cultstud-l] Re: 911 Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 14:00:30 >A point of information--I haven't come across many of the responses >mentioned here--Jameson, Gilroy, Eagleton, etc. Where can they be >found? Hi Sean. Here you go: Saskia Sassen (professor of sociology at the University of Chicago): http://www.theglo ...

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Date:	Tue Oct 30 07:33:23 PST 2001

30759 lbo-talk-digest V1 #5178 -- rank: 1000

Daniel Davies wrote: >My personal bias, as you correctly detected, is that individuals can >outperform institutions systematically under conditions of pressure. I've been amazed over the last few days by Washington's amazement at the tenacity of the Taliban and by U.S. forces' failure to get any useful intelligence in their ground raid the other day. Any reasonably literate newspaper reader could have predicted both. Is it groupthink that led them to these idiotic expectations? Racist unde ...

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Date:	Tue Oct 30 07:26:20 PST 2001

30760 Alterman's latest -- rank: 1000

Michael Pollak wrote: > >Eric Alterman wrote: > >> Does it make sense to blame the destruction of the World Trade Center >> on a $500 million nonlethal aid program that took place more than >> twenty years ago? > >Where on earth does he get this figure? According to Ahmed Rashid, the US >gave the Mujahedeen between 4 and 5 billion dollars between 1980 and 1992, >and organized matching funds by Saudi Arabia and European countries so >that the Mujahade ...

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Date:	Tue Oct 30 07:20:07 PST 2001

30761 Antiwar movement losing steam????? -- rank: 1000

Chuck0 wrote: >I've been trying to figure out an anarchist response to this dilemma. >It's not like an anarchist can be logically consistent and call for any >state to pursue these criminals. It's also hard to argue that, if >captured, they be tried in a state's court or imprisoned in a state's >prison. No, anarchists can't. And have anarchists talked at all about how Al Qaeda is organized in a rather anarcho-friendly way? Not quite leaderless, but close, with very loose structure ...

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Date:	Tue Oct 30 07:14:30 PST 2001

30762 Antiwar movement losing steam????? -- rank: 1000

Thomas Seay wrote: >Listen you stalinist son-of-a-bitch. Sometimes professed anti-sectarians seem quite sectarian themselves in both their attitudes and language. Doug

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Date:	Tue Oct 30 07:02:18 PST 2001

30763 WV and US terror bombing -- rank: 1000

Thomas Seay wrote: > > The Sparts aren't Stalinists. They're Trots, and >> despise Stalin. > >I know that they are trotskyites but, these days, >what's the difference? They are out their "hailing" >wonderful regimes like North Korea and China. They don't call them wonderful - the standard formulation is they must be defended against U.S. imperialism, but they are "deformed workers states." They're not critical enough for my taste, but they don't &qu ...

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Date:	Tue Oct 30 06:37:31 PST 2001

30764 Nathan Newman, peacemaker -- rank: 1000

Carl Remick wrote: >Well put again, Nathan, you're on a roll. Hey Carl, we both bloc with Nathan, as the Trots say. So what were we fighting about over the last few weeks, anyway? Doug

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Date:	Tue Oct 30 06:38:51 PST 2001

30765 Aijaz Ahmad weighs in -- rank: 1000

<http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl1822/18221160.htm> Frontline Volume 18 - Issue 22, Oct. 27 - Nov. 09, 2001 Re-mapping the globe By Aijaz Ahmad As I begin drafting this essay on 18 October, on the twelfth day of the war on Afghanistan, it has become quite clear that the real strategic aim is not so much a change of regime in Afghanistan but to obtain re-alignments of power across the globe. The destruction of the World Trade Centre was by any reckoning an act of a group of desperados ...

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Date:	Tue Oct 30 06:25:54 PST 2001