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30631 maniacs weigh in -- rank: 1000

Carrol Cox wrote: >No one of course can quite compete with the comics page of the WSJ, but >they can try. In today's Chicago Tribune there is an op-ed headed > > Take a Stand > THERE IS NO MORE WIGGLE > ROOM FOR MUSLIMS Well, Zev Chafets in yesterday's NY Daily News committed one of the more repulsive pieces of the columnist's art I've ever read. Chafets' email address is at the end, if anyone wants to offer a critique. Doug ---- New York Daily News - September 16, 2001 Arab Am ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Sep 17 12:26:15 PDT 2001

30632 Kinda quiet -- rank: 1000

Ken Hanly wrote: >What is more this is also expected of Canadians, Britons, Turks, and >citizens of every other nation. Workers of the World Unite and sing: God >Bless America. >Bow your heads in prayer with Bush and company. This is what you are to do. >Most have watched TV and understood what the proper behavior of well >socialised civilized people should be or at least feel what it should be. >This is not the time for serious analysis or embarassing questions. Left, > ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Sep 17 12:07:37 PDT 2001

30633 Kinda quiet -- rank: 1000

Steve Perry wrote: >i think most are abashed at the prospecting of seeming less than good >americans, sad to say. There's American nationalism, which is repulsive, and there's a sense of fellow-feeling which may look like nationalism, but isn't quite identical. Everyone in NYC seems to feel a kinship that didn't exist before in this city of the famously hard-hearted. The vocabulary people have to express this consists of flag-waving, prayer, and candlelight vigils. That's not my vocabulary ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Sep 17 11:34:26 PDT 2001

30634 What is the moral course -- rank: 1000

Max Sawicky wrote: >In a nutshell, >it's a demand to the Gov to find the guilty parties >and those closely associated and blow them to kingdom >come I'm curious how many folks here are opposed to tracking down the perps and dealing with them in some form, whether it's blowing them to kingdom come, or some Fisk-like trial in an international court. Is the revolutionary defeatist position that the U.S. should do nothing against OBL, assuming it was his crew that did the work? Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Sep 17 10:55:08 PDT 2001

30635 poetic interlude -- rank: 1000

Carrol Cox wrote: >The version Doug quotes appears as quoted in the 1945 _Collected >Poetry_, but Auden later edited out some political references in his >early poetry. Sep 1 1939 doesn't appear in the Auden collections I have (the collected longer and collected shorter poems, published in the 1970s), since he suppressed it - and not just a few lines, but the whole thing. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Sep 17 10:23:46 PDT 2001

30636 What is the moral course -- rank: 1000

Max Sawicky wrote: >Which is one reason the peace position will ring hollow >to most people. I was away for the weekend, and am just catching up, but: 1) while there's the usual gang of ravers raving, I've also been surprised that the level of public bellicosity hasn't been higher; 2) there is no single "peace position,"; 3) should one only take political stands that have a large immediate audience? - after all, on a more banal level, your position on fiscal policy "rings ho ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Sep 17 09:41:06 PDT 2001

30637 poetic interlude -- rank: 1000

[This was posted to my generally banal Yale Class of 1975 listserv.] September 1, 1939 W.H. Auden I sit in one of the dives On Fifty-Second Street Uncertain and afraid As the clever hopes expire Of a low dishonest decade: Waves of anger and fear Circulate over the bright And darkened lands of the earth, Obsessing our private lives; The unmentionable odour of death Offends the September night. Accurate scholarship can Unearth the whole offence From Luther until now That has driven a culture mad, ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Sep 17 09:19:03 PDT 2001

30638 Fisk: Bush walking into trap -- rank: 1000

Independent (London) - September 16, 2001 Robert Fisk: Bush is walking into a trap Retaliation is a trap. In a world that was supposed to have learnt that the rule of law comes above revenge, President Bush appears to be heading for the very disaster that Osama bin Laden has laid down for him. Let us have no doubts about what happened in New York and Washington last week. It was a crime against humanity. We cannot understand America's need to retaliate unless we accept this bleak, awesome fact. ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Sep 17 08:52:35 PDT 2001

30639 maniacs weigh in -- rank: 1000

Wall Street Journal - September 17, 2001 War of the Worlds By Shelby Steele. Mr. Steele, a research fellow at the Hoover Institution, is the author of "A Dream Deferred: The Second Betrayal of Black Freedom in America" (HaperCollins, 1998). A week ago today, I set out to write a piece for this page on the recent United Nations conference against racism and intolerance in Durban, South Africa. My point was to be that the conference was an absurd and theatrical confrontation of First Wor ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Sep 17 08:09:22 PDT 2001

30640 Fed weighs in -- rank: 1000

<http://www.federalreserve.gov/boarddocs/press/general/2001/20010917/default.htm> Release Date: September 17, 2001 For immediate release The Federal Open Market Committee decided today to lower its target for the federal funds rate by 50 basis points to 3 percent. In a related action, the Board of Governors approved a 50 basis point reduction in the discount rate to 2-1/2 percent. The Federal Reserve will continue to supply unusually large volumes of liquidity to the financial markets, as ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Sep 17 08:09:33 PDT 2001

30641 Virilio -- rank: 1000

Luther Blissett reports: >El terrorismo no es sólo un fenómeno político, es también un >fenómeno artístico. Se da en la publicidad, en los media, en el >reality show, en el media pornográfico. Lo único que queda por hacer >es darle al otro un puñetazo en la cara para despertarle. Es la >imagen del niño ciego, sordo y mudo de los 50 que estaba totalmente >aislado del mundo y que era sacado de su aislamiento a golpes: el >sobresalto le devolvía el habla. Ahora es evidente que ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Sep 13 17:56:05 PDT 2001

30642 Fwd: [kenslist] Falwell and Robertson on the Causes of Tuesday -- rank: 1000

[forwarded by CUNY politics prof Ken Sherrill] Jerry Falwell's words yesterday: >"The ACLU's got to take a lot of blame for this. And, I know that I'll >hear from them for this. But, throwing God or successfully with the help >of the federal court system, throwing God out of the public square, out of >the schools. The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this >because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little >innocent babies, we make God m ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Sep 13 17:27:59 PDT 2001

30643 Indian Country on events -- rank: 1000

<http://www.indiancountry.com/?article=279> Page Southern Plains reaction ranges from shock, panic to anger Posted: September 13, 2001 - 15:00 est by: Mary Pierpoint / Today Staff / Indian Country Today Residents of the Southern Plains region were especially hard hit by the terrorist attacks on New York City and Washington, D.C. The burning buildings and panic in the streets brought the horror of the Oklahoma City bombing back to what had been the only area in the country previously victim ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Sep 13 16:26:42 PDT 2001

30644 Fisk on OBL -- rank: 1000

<http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/s365916.htm> ABC RADIO US response should be carefully considered: analyst The World Today - Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:18 JOHN HIGHFIELD: And there's a contrary view coming from the respected Middle East reporter and analyst, Robert Fisk, who writes for The Independent and is a regular contributor to ABC Radio National and The Philip Adams Program. He's amongst those urging caution. He agrees that the suicidal nature of the attacks suggests a Musli ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Sep 13 16:05:49 PDT 2001

30645 (no subject) -- rank: 1000

Brad DeLong wrote: >The line between explanation, understanding, justification, and >excuse is always a fine one But anyone who wants to minimize the >chances that the Gates of Hell are about to yawn open would be >well-advised to talk less about how the WTC is "understandable given >past misdeeds of the American government" and more about how massive >civilian casualties--anywhere, anyhow, anytime--are unacceptable. Does that apply to Iraq and the former Yugoslavia t ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Sep 13 15:39:20 PDT 2001