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3046 [lbo-talk] Christian right leader takes vacation with rent boy -- rank: 1000

On May 5, 2010, at 10:50 AM, Joseph Catron wrote: A lot of stuff that responded to nothing I said, and things I didn't say. So it's clear this isn't going anywhere. But on this specific matter: > But the guy in question was a leading spokesperson for the "ex-gay" >> movement: >> > > Where did you get such a silly idea as that? Between April 1 and May > 3, the > day before this non-story broke, Google News returns exactly one > article > mentioning the ...

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Date:	Wed May 5 08:17:54 PDT 2010

3047 [lbo-talk] Christian right leader takes vacation with rent boy -- rank: 1000

On May 4, 2010, at 10:15 PM, Joseph Catron wrote: > Doug, if you want to argue that something you dislike constitutes a > psychological disorder in the clinical sense, the onus is on you to > prove > your case, not on me to preemptively disprove it. "Dislike" is one thing. But the guy in question was a leading spokesperson for the "ex-gay" movement: http://gawker.com/5531106/comment-of-the-day-oh-happy-gay Someone who makes a career out of this is a different cas ...

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Date:	Wed May 5 07:18:51 PDT 2010

3048 [lbo-talk] Brooks' The Limits of Policy; critiques? -- rank: 1000

On May 4, 2010, at 10:03 PM, D D wrote: > The Limits of Policy > DAVID BROOKS > May 3, 2010 > > Roughly a century ago, many Swedes immigrated to America. They ve > done very well here. Only about 6.7 percent of Swedish-Americans > live in poverty. Also a century ago, many Swedes decided to remain > in Sweden. They ve done well there, too. When two economists > calculated Swedish poverty rates according to the American standard, > they found that 6.7 percent of the S ...

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3049 [lbo-talk] Christian right leader takes vacation with rent boy -- rank: 1000

On May 4, 2010, at 9:44 PM, Joseph Catron wrote: > looking for the > material basis behind everything And since when are cocks and asses not material? Doug

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3050 [lbo-talk] Christian right leader takes vacation with rent boy -- rank: 1000

On May 4, 2010, at 9:44 PM, Joseph Catron wrote: > It's interesting how you, and most of the left, categorize all > heterosexist > sentiment as a "phobia," and hence a psychological issue. I'll be > the first > to admit that I often err in the opposite direction - looking for the > material basis behind everything This is rather opaque. What might the material basis behind a visceral dislike of homosexual behavior and perhaps homosexuals themselves - since you don't ...

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Date:	Tue May 4 18:52:43 PDT 2010

3051 [lbo-talk] Christian right leader takes vacation with rent boy -- rank: 1000

On May 4, 2010, at 5:00 PM, Dennis Claxton wrote: > At 01:54 PM 5/4/2010, Doug Henwood wrote: > > >> There are studies showing that homophobes watching gay porn are more >> likely to get boners than non-bigoted straight guys, right? > > > I have heard that and I'd bet there's a lot more info like that. > Does anyone have suggestions for further reading? http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=single-angry-straight-male&print=true with links

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3052 [lbo-talk] Christian right leader takes vacation with rent boy -- rank: 1000

On May 4, 2010, at 8:58 PM, Jim Farmelant wrote: > Anyway, none of this will make a dent > in the faith or political strength of the Christian right, > otherwise they would have faded away a long time ago. Not these "exposures" in themselves, no. But if it helps normalize gay sex, it undermines them. Like I said, I'm not interested in the hypocrisy angle. I'm interested in what it says about the psychology of homophobia. Doug

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Date:	Tue May 4 18:27:31 PDT 2010

3053 [lbo-talk] Christian right leader takes vacation with rent boy -- rank: 1000

On May 4, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Dennis Claxton wrote: > You hear this about gay bashing but it doesn't seem so clear. There are studies showing that homophobes watching gay porn are more likely to get boners than non-bigoted straight guys, right? Doug

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Date:	Tue May 4 13:54:43 PDT 2010

3054 [lbo-talk] Christian right leader takes vacation with rent boy -- rank: 1000

On May 4, 2010, at 4:21 PM, farmelantj at juno.com wrote: > an is > inherently sinful, so it's not surprising > that Christian right leaders might themselves > struggle with homosexual desires. > That, in their view, is only to be expected. C'mon. Going off on vacation with a rent boy isn't just a routine struggle with homosexual desires. Doug

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3055 [lbo-talk] Christian right leader takes vacation with rent boy -- rank: 1000

On May 4, 2010, at 3:54 PM, Carrol Cox wrote: > The problem is the false judgment of homswxuality of the "Christian > Right." What does the minister's hypocrisy have to do with this? I would argue that it's not hypocrisy. The recurrence of this sort of thing makes an interesting point about the source of homophobia in anxiety about one's own homosexual desire. Or, a secret life is the condition of possibility of Christian right politics - at least when one makes a career out ...

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3056 [lbo-talk] Christian right leader takes vacation with rent boy -- rank: 1000

http://www.miaminewtimes.com/2010-05-06/news/christian-right-leader-george-rekers-takes-vacation-with-rent-boy/1 Christian right leader George Rekers takes vacation with "rent boy" By Penn Bullock and Brandon K. Thorp Thursday, May 6 2010 The pictures on the Rentboy.com profile show a shirtless young man with delicate features, guileless eyes, and sun-kissed, hairless skin. The profile touts his "smooth, sweet, tight ass" and "perfectly built 8 inch cock (uncut)" ...

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3057 [lbo-talk] yuck -- rank: 1000

[from The Israel Project, a Zionist org that keeps sending me press releases - evidently the Madoff collapse didn't cut too deeply into Wiesel's self-promotional budget] Less than three weeks after Holocaust survivor and Nobel laureate Elie Wiesel published a newspaper ad criticizing the U.S. administration for its handling of the peace process, Wiesel will meet with President Obama today (May 4) for lunch at the invitation of the White House.[1] [2]

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3058 [lbo-talk] Stern's "vibrant" idea: let's add private accounts to SS -- rank: 1000

<http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/budget/95753-seius-stern-says-wh-fiscal-commission-should-look-at-private-retirement-accounts > SEIU's Stern says fiscal commission should look at 'add-on' private retirement accounts By Walter Alarkon - 05/03/10 07:09 PM ET Andy Stern, the powerful union leader and member of President Barack Obama's fiscal commission, said the panel should consider private retirement investment accounts while reviewing Social Security, a move that Democrats have ...

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3059 [lbo-talk] hey Zizek fans -- rank: 1000

On May 3, 2010, at 9:17 PM, Sean Andrews wrote: > Well, when it comes down to it, the only way to force society to act > in a certain way is to force society to act in a certain way. > Capitalism requires all sorts of terror to operate: it's best that we > admit upfront that any omelet might take a few eggs. Alex Cockburn on seeing a cover of Against the Current about 15 years ago with the headline: "Stop the killings!": "See, this is exactly what's wrong with the le ...

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Date:	Mon May 3 18:26:56 PDT 2010

3060 [lbo-talk] videogamers: a profile -- rank: 1000

On May 3, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Jim Farmelant wrote: > God knows what they would find in a similar > study of people who post to political discussion > lists all day. So how many of us are fat? Doug

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