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30151 crappy American meat -- rank: 1000

Kelley wrote: >There are people all over the world who regularly eat shit. Read up >on your comparative anthropology! And Pacifica star and alternative health guru Gary Null recommends drinking one's own urine! Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Aug 8 07:53:41 PDT 2002

30152 So, if not unions... -- rank: 1000

Gordon Fitch wrote: >Shane s-t-t at juno.com writes: >> > Chuck, do you want unions to be replaced by consensus-based affinity >> > groups? And is that how the productive apparatus of society should be >> > run? > >JCWisc at aol.com: >> An excellent question. >> >> Doug asked another excellent question on this list some time ago: >>What is the >> anarchist utopia of the future going to be like anyway? Will there be >& ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Aug 8 07:43:37 PDT 2002

30153 crappy American meat -- rank: 1000

Daniel Davies wrote: >Surely the fact that the richest nation on earth is prepared to eat >contaminated meat reflects some more fundamental pathology than just tastes >in food? Hey, American wealth depends on cost-cutting, cost-externalization, and waste on a truly grand scale. Seems perfectly apt to me. Oh yeah - if you don't want the mass crap, you can always get the high-end stuff Jordan pointed to. That's the American way too - but you have to pay through the nose for it. An old fav ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Aug 8 07:40:21 PDT 2002

30154 Gore did it to himself -- rank: 1000

Bradford DeLong wrote: >Really? The line in the sand that the Treasury wanted to draw was to >invest some of the "trust fund" in equities, but not to create >individual accounts... Lines in sand often suffer erasure from wind and tides. But still, "investing" "some" of the "trust fund" in equities is a form of privatization, since it substitutes asset appreciation for taxation as a source of funds (which is dodgy in the cashflow sense - where's th ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Aug 7 19:28:27 PDT 2002

30155 Revolutionary role of unions -- rank: 1000

Carrol Cox wrote: >Correct. It's been so long since I read any of Munson's posts that I >forget how isolated & irrelevant he is. Uh, Carrol, comrade - are you implying that you, by contrast, are tenaciously rooted and screamingly relevant? Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Aug 7 19:26:21 PDT 2002

30156 Iraq: Tony Blair is our last hope -- rank: 1000

********** Richard Dawkins, an Oxford science don, suggested Mr Bush was just as much of a danger to world peace as Saddam Hussein, adding: "It would be a tragedy if Tony Blair were to be brought down through playing poodle to this unelected and deeply stupid little oil-spiv." ********** Guardian (London) - August 7, 2002 Blair is our last hope, says Iraq UK rejects move to split alliance Brian Whitaker Iraq is making an increasingly desperate round of diplomatic moves aimed at staving ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Aug 7 16:08:05 PDT 2002

30157 Gore did it to himself -- rank: 1000

Nathan Newman wrote: >Clinton never proposed privatization. He did propose supplemental >individual retirement funds that would receive heavy subsidized tax credits >for working class folks-- a very progressive policy proposal that I was >quite in favor of. Washington Post - June 29, 2001 Clinton Eyed Private Social Security Accounts Glenn Kessler, Washington Post Staff Writer President Clinton and his economic advisers spent 18 months secretly discussing the elements of a plan to ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Aug 7 16:03:36 PDT 2002

30158 Radio Archives open for business -- rank: 1000

I've just added a radio page to the LBO website, which has links to archived versions of four full shows and two individual interviews. More past shows will be added in coming weeks, and future shows will be posted on the Friday morning after their Thursday evening broadcast, god willing. Doug ============================================================================== <http://www.leftbusinessobserver.com/Radio.html> FULL SHOWS Shows are approximately 55 minutes long, and downloadable fi ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Aug 7 15:56:52 PDT 2002

30159 gore did it to himself -- rank: 1000

michael pugliese wrote: >Jeffrey Fisher>...where's michael p to argue for guilt by association? > > Do a google on, "Al Gore Fred Phelps, " the God Hates Fags >loon. When Al was a congressman Phelps gave him lotsa campaign >contributions. Tom Frank, a son of Kansas, told me that Phelps used to be not so bad, until someone in his family came out. Then he went totally around the bend. So I think the Phelps that Gore was friendly with isn't the evil Phelps of today. D ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Aug 7 14:50:32 PDT 2002

30160 Gore did it to himself -- rank: 1000

Nathan Newman wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Doug Henwood" <dhenwood at panix.com> >And it would embody a newapproach to governing based >>on a key New Democrat insight: That in the Information Age, >>government's role is not to take care of us, but to give us the >>tools we need to take care of ourselves and each other. > >-But these aren't real Democrats, I guess. > >They don't hold political office. Huh? Prominent DLC member ...

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Date:	Wed Aug 7 14:45:39 PDT 2002

30161 live by the gun... -- rank: 1000

Pistol Fires at Event for Rep. Barr Wed Aug 7, 9:47 AM ET ATLANTA (AP) - An antique .38-caliber pistol accidentally discharged as it was being handled by Rep. Bob Barr during a reception in his honor. The bullet hit a glass door, and no one was hurt. Georgia lobbyist Bruce Widener said Tuesday that he had removed the magazine from his 1908 Colt but did not clear the chamber before handing the weapon to Barr, a board member of the National Rifle Association. Widener said "one of us hit the t ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Aug 7 13:40:11 PDT 2002

30162 Gore did it to himself -- rank: 1000

Kevin Robert Dean wrote: >Allow me to try! Here's something I found from >everyone's favorite Progressive Policy Institute on >SSP: > >"To renew Social Security's promise for the 21st >century, we have to find a new way to finance the >system. By 2032, the program's trust fund will be >exhausted and tax revenues will only cover 75 percent >of promised benefits. Where will the money come from >to pay for the retirement of 77 million boomers who on >average w ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Aug 7 12:54:55 PDT 2002

30163 crappy American meat -- rank: 1000

Chuck Grimes wrote: >Well, hell, try crappy American culture, period. Food and food >preparation just reflects some other totality. Pick one, say politics, >same blah, meally mouthed crap that says nothing and does nothing. Or >pick music, same shit, lots of noise, melodic and harmonic dimenision >zero. Remember the guitar thread? Hendrix? Get real. Try Joe Pass. Or >writing, lots of words and nothing to say. Or take on the big one, an >economy that produces little worth bu ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Aug 7 12:43:34 PDT 2002

30164 Gore did it to himself -- rank: 1000

Luke Benjamin Weiger wrote: > > Nathan Newman wrote: >> >> >First, no group in the Dems are supporting privatization of >>Social Security, >> >even the DLC. >> >> Clinton would have done it except for Monica. Or doesn't the >> ex-president count as a Dem? >> >> Doug > >Hard to see how he would count as a "group in the Dems." Fucking hell, he was a founder of the DLC, and its poster boy until the bimbo thing g ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Aug 7 11:32:05 PDT 2002

30165 Romania -- rank: 1000

joanna bujes wrote: >We're the lickspittles of history. Only country I can think of that >has the proverb: "The bowed head is not cut by the sword." I thought the Japanese had a saying "the nail that sticks up gets hammered down." Different image, similar meaning. Doug

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Date:	Wed Aug 7 11:30:34 PDT 2002