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30046 Milton the Anarchist Re: "post-leftism" -- rank: 1000

Dddddd0814 at aol.com wrote: >Lovely talk in the abstract, Chuck. But the specifics do still seem >to come down to Pol Pot, whether there is coersion or no. Pol Pot >had the same unprincipled idealism--- change [Cambodia's] way of >life so that it can survive capitalism..... Ah, but as Slavoj Zizek wrote in Tarrying with the Negative, "Prior to becoming a revolutionary, Pol Pot was a professor at a French lycee in Phnom Penh, known for his subtle readings of Rimbaud and Mallarme ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Aug 20 14:42:26 PDT 2002

30047 queer settlers claim Starbucks -- rank: 1000

[is this true?] Queer 'Settlers' Land on Berkeley Starbucks Analogy to Israeli Colonists by QUIT QUIT August 20, 2002 ACTIVISM About 25 queer settlers descended on a downtown Berkeley Starbucks on Saturday, August 17, claiming Berkeley as "a city without people for people without a city." The group, organized by Queers Undermining Israeli Terrorism (QUIT!), posted a banner proclaiming the reclaimed cafe "Queerkeley - A Prophecy Fulfilled." They also erected homes (transformed ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Aug 20 14:22:36 PDT 2002

30048 the sad life of a celebrity -- rank: 1000

New York Post - August 20, 2002 [Page Six] Alas, poor stars VANITY Fair editor Graydon Carter says he runs soft-boiled profiles of celebs because they're just dumb, harmless animals. "Look, most of them, like, are 27 years old and they spend most of their time in a trailer," Carter tells the Toronto Globe & Mail. "They don't read much. They're nice people and I think, why beat up on some poor little movie star? They're like baby seals. I'd rather take a club at somebody bigger ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Aug 20 09:37:21 PDT 2002

30049 Fwd: DEBATE: (Fwd) New book: Cuba told truth, U.S. lied on Angola -- rank: 1000

National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book No. 67 Edited by Peter Kornbluh <http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB67/> NEW BOOK based on Unprecedented Access to Cuban Records; True Story of U.S.-Cuba Cold fear [sic] Clash in Angola presented in "Conflicting Missions" Washington D.C.: The National Security Archive today posted a selection of secret Cuban government documents detailing Cuba's policy and involvement in Africa in the 1960s and 1970s. The records are a sam ...

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Date:	Tue Aug 20 09:29:06 PDT 2002

30050 Poverty levels in India decline sharply to 26 pc -- rank: 1000

Ulhas Joglekar wrote: >HindustanTimes.com > >Sunday, August 18, 2002 > >Poverty levels come down sharply to 26 per cent So is this true? What does Vandana Shiva have to say? Doug

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Date:	Tue Aug 20 09:11:28 PDT 2002

30051 Milton the Anarchist Re: "post-leftism" -- rank: 1000

Brian O. Sheppard x349393 wrote: >So that's your answer as to whether objects (airplanes only being one >example out of many) should be made coercively or not? "Next Utopia, >please"? Who's calling for coerced production of anything? My questions were: if you don't like large permanent institutions, than how can you make anything complex? Chuck0 said he didn't care about producing complex things, and I don't think he's the only person around who believes this. He also wanted t ...

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Date:	Mon Aug 19 15:07:28 PDT 2002

30052 Wierd question -- rank: 1000

Chris Doss wrote: >I am writing a story on the Russia-Iraq economic cooperation >agreement recently announced. Anybody have a clue how to contact the >Iraqi Embassy in NYC? They are unlisted (for obvious reasons). I >sent an email, but that is obviously less-than-satisfactory. well, there's <http://www.iraqi-mission.org/>

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Date:	Mon Aug 19 11:42:38 PDT 2002

30053 Milton the Anarchist Re: "post-leftism" -- rank: 1000

Chuck0 wrote: >Yeah, what happens when the workers in the Global South get tired of your >government stealing from them to make your nice middle class leftist >lifestyle possible? Did they elect you their spokesperson? "Government stealing from them"? Is that how it works? What about production, which you seem to think is filthy and evil? Doug

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Date:	Mon Aug 19 11:38:15 PDT 2002

30054 "post-leftism" -- rank: 1000

Chuck0 wrote: >billbartlett at dodo.com.au wrote: > >> Chuck's rants against modern industrial means of production are >>intrinsically reactionary and anti-social. Such deranged rhetoric >>should probably be criminalised, their authors thrown in a jail, >>along with other potential war criminals. The man is dangerous. >>Like I say, a potential Pol Pot. >> > >I'm only making arguments that have been printed in the Left press for the >past 40 yea ...

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Date:	Mon Aug 19 11:35:45 PDT 2002

30055 Domhoff on the Ruling Class -- rank: 1000

billbartlett at dodo.com.au wrote: > >No class could rule "economically" without the backing of a state >- to repress dissent, enforce contracts, regulate money. I'm >surprised you could claim to the contrary. > >I didn't say that they rule without the state. I said political >power was incidental. Repressing dissent, enforcing contracts, and regulating money are "incidental" functions? I knew Tasmania was far away, but you seem really really far away. D ...

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Date:	Mon Aug 19 08:43:25 PDT 2002

30056 Hacker review -- rank: 1000

A couple of people have sent Hacker's original NYRB review, to which Domhoff's letter was a response, but it's too long to post to the list. If anyone's interested, I've posted it to the LBO website. There's no link to it on the site - there's just this, and I'll take it down in a few days to avoid copyright problems: <http://www.leftbusinessobserver.com/Hacker.txt>.

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Date:	Mon Aug 19 08:39:39 PDT 2002

30057 ENE & BC -- rank: 1000

New York Post - August 19, 2002 ENRON WAS COZY WITH TOP CLINTON OFFICIALS: MAG By WILLIAM J. GORTA While there has been much scrutiny of the relationship between Enron and the Bush administration, the embattled energy company's influence in the White House dates back to the Clinton years, a new report says. The Clinton White House asked for Enron's input into a 1995 plan to increase cash flow and credit of opportunities for energy producers - and then altered its draft report to accommodate Enro ...

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Date:	Mon Aug 19 08:23:48 PDT 2002

30058 Grubman terrified of jail -- rank: 1000

[Lizzie, that is. Are they really related, as I read the other day?] New York Post - August 19, 2002 LIZZIE'S LOCKUP TERROR by Post staff Lizzie Grubman is "terrified" to go to jail. "She's scared, of course she is, but she wants it over with - for the victims, for their families, for her family," a friend of the embattled PR princess told The Post yesterday. "She's terrified that she's going to have to live with people she doesn't know. And who knows what they might thi ...

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Date:	Mon Aug 19 08:21:59 PDT 2002

30059 Domhoff on the Ruling Class -- rank: 1000

billbartlett at dodo.com.au wrote: >From this letter, it seems William Domhoff is basing his conception >of the ruling class on the idea that such a class rules politically. >Of course the capitalist ruling class rules economically. Any formal >or informal political or social connections are merely incidental, >such links are not the basis for their power. No class could rule "economically" without the backing of a state - to repress dissent, enforce contracts, regulate ...

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Date:	Mon Aug 19 07:55:44 PDT 2002

30060 Iraq war - on hold? -- rank: 1000

Washington Post - August 18, 2002 White House Push for Iraqi Strike Is on Hold Waiting to Make Case for Action Allows Invasion Opponents to Dominate Debate By Dana Milbank Washington Post Staff Writer As the debate intensifies about the merits of American military action to topple Iraq's Saddam Hussein, the Bush administration is purposely refraining from making a detailed case for such a campaign until war is imminent. President Bush and his aides mention almost daily that Hussein is a menace w ...

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Date:	Mon Aug 19 07:39:34 PDT 2002