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28546 Fwd: BOUNCE lbo-talk at lists.panix.com: Non-member submission from [Bradford DeLong <jbdelong at uclink.berkeley.edu>] -- rank: 1000

X-From_: owner-lbo-talk at lists.panix.com Fri May 10 23:34:35 2002 Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 23:34:35 -0400 (EDT) From: owner-lbo-talk at lists.panix.com To: lbo-talk-approval at dont.panix.com Subject: BOUNCE lbo-talk at lists.panix.com: Non-member submission from [Bradford DeLong <jbdelong at uclink.berkeley.edu>] >From dhenwood at panix.com Fri May 10 23:34:34 2002 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by dont.panix.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/PanixLC1.6) ...

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28547 Bubba's love child? -- rank: 1000

New York Post - May 11, 2002 [Page Six] Bubba blood BILL Clinton might have a love child, according to the National Enquirer. The ex-husband of one of Clinton's old lovers from his Little Rock days now says he believes his 20-year-old son might actually have the blood of Bubba in his veins. Paul Pearson, whose ex-wife, Dolly Kyle Browning, publicly admitted having a 17-year affair with Clinton, tells the Enquirer that the then-governor was still bedding his wife when his boy Anthony was conceive ...

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Date:	Sat May 11 10:33:32 PDT 2002

28548 new right-wing French education minister hates posties -- rank: 1000

Chronicle of HIgher Education - web daily - May 10, 2002 Philosopher Who Challenged Postmodern Radicalism Is France's New Education Minister By SCOTT McLEMEE When French President Jacques Chirac announced his new cabinet on Tuesday, reporters scrutinized his choices to estimate their possible effect on the forthcoming parliamentary races. But one of his appointments is as likely to influence the world of ideas: The new minister of youth, education, and research is Luc Ferry, 51, a professor of p ...

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28549 Suicide Bombers -- rank: 1000

Michael Pugliese wrote: > Who with his homophobic rants against the, "pansy left, " (W.H. >Auden, Stephen >Spender, Christopher Isherwood), isn't very PC either. > See, George Orwell," by Raymond Williasms in the Penguin/Viking Modern >Masters series, published about 1970 and, "orwell;The Politics of a Literary >Reputation, " by John Rodden, Oxford Univ. Press. Or Frances Stonor Saunders' The Cultural Cold War: The CIA and the World of Arts and Lett ...

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Date:	Sat May 11 10:25:47 PDT 2002

28550 Marxism as Theory and movement -- rank: 1000

Dennis Robert Redmond wrote: >On Fri, 10 May 2002, Justin Schwartz wrote: > >> and the world. MArxism is a great theory--that's all that's left of it. > >IG Metall has been disbanded? Goodness, the things I learn on this list! IG Metall is a revolutionary socialist organization? You're not the only one who learns a lot on this list! Doug

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28551 Was Katarina Witt a Stasi Collaborator? -- rank: 1000

RangerCat67 at aol.com wrote: > Coupled with earlier comments that "life under communism >wasn't so bad" and that with their extensive surveillance of her, >Stasi had just been "doing their duty" and Witt begins to look more >like a collaborator than a victim of the East German state. Of course, she could never just be telling the truth as she sees it. Doug

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Date:	Fri May 10 15:47:00 PDT 2002

28552 anti-zionism -- rank: 1000

Nathan Newman wrote: >But there is a rhetoric of excommunication, that looks for reasons why people >who agree on 95% of the issues are "waffling" or are not really a leftist. Yup. Or on the other hand, potential heretics are "rigid" and "purist." It'd be nice if we could get over that. Doug

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28553 anti-zionism -- rank: 1000

reed tryte wrote: >Also, this is neither here nor there, but if it >somehow came to it, would anyone seriously support the >bombing of Israel, a country with perhaps 200 nuclear >weapons? If so, you're braver than I am. I met a delegate from New Zealand to a UN disarmament conference a few weeks ago. She said it was 400. And the U.S., of course, refused any discussion of this issue, rendering the conference useless. Doug

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Date:	Fri May 10 13:25:19 PDT 2002

28554 anti-zionism -- rank: 1000

Nathan Newman wrote: >In fact, on the basis of their position on Kosovo, I don't >actually know what the anti-Kosovo-intervention Left has to argue for in >calling for external interference in the "internal affairs" of Israel. The U.S. already intervenes in the "internal affairs" of Israel by supplying it with money and weapons. So, the usual "U.S. out of _____" formula would work if you filled in the blank with either Israel or Yugo. Doug

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Date:	Fri May 10 13:10:08 PDT 2002

28555 Marxism as Theory and movement -- rank: 1000

Ian Murray wrote: >The West Coast has the youngest subsections of what is, still, one of the >youngest countries of the world [225+ years] and so people aren't quite >as set in their ideological ways. Plenty of opportunities for >troublemakers. After living-working in DC for too many years, moving out >West was a breath of fresh air in more ways than one. Of course, you >don't have to scratch too far below the surface to find the Wild West >with all it's lunacies, but folks ...

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Date:	Fri May 10 13:01:37 PDT 2002

28556 Cheap Morality, was Re: anti-zionism -- rank: 1000

Luke Weiger wrote: >Marxism, like any other substantive set of political positions, relies in >large part on value judgments for whatever force it may be said to possess. >Slightly more succinctly: the Marxist eschewal of "rigorous moral positions" >is ultimately self-defeating. Or a self-delusion. I know that moral/ethical positions are unscientific, and Marx wanted heroically to be scientific, but really now - why care about exploitation, immiseration, polarization, alien ...

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Date:	Fri May 10 13:00:31 PDT 2002

28557 Marxism as Theory and movement -- rank: 1000

Justin Schwartz wrote: >Historical materialism in some form is not only true but obviously >true. Class analysis is inavualble and essential for understanding >society. Marxism as a movement, organozed around traditional >symbols, vocabulary, and organizational forms, is dead as a doornail >outside a few embattled locales--maybe Kerela? Maybe Cuba. Berkeley, >Madison, Ann ARbor, parts of Greenwich Village, the Kite in >Cambridge (if that still exists), etc. In the West it is ...

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Date:	Fri May 10 09:01:55 PDT 2002

28558 Fwd: Counter Harassment Party TOMORROW!!! -- rank: 1000

[half the reason I'm forwarding this is the return address, but the other half is that it sounds like it might be fun - any women in NYC who want to file a report...] From: "titty crust" <bleeding_nipples at hotmail.com> To: rtsnyc at lists.tao.ca Subject: Counter Harassment Party TOMORROW!!! Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 10:20:28 -0400 Attention wild women!!! The Street Harassment Project's Annual "Rights of Spring" event is here!!!! TOMORROW!! Saturday, May 11th What: COUNTE ...

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Date:	Fri May 10 08:57:49 PDT 2002

28559 Enemies of Nixon RE: re Jon Stewart -- rank: 1000

budge wrote: >oh, and I meant to add (this was the point of my hugh sidey >commnet), you did not have to be a rad to get on the list, >there were a lot of decidely unradical anti-nixon people. Carol Channing. Wow, I've forgotten how nutty the Nixon years were. It's so easy to think that American public life only recently descended into total lunacy, but it's actually been there a long time. Doug

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Date:	Fri May 10 08:55:54 PDT 2002

28560 Terror Inc. -- rank: 1000

Ulhas Joglekar wrote: >We will be lucky if Marxism survives as a viable political project in the >long run. How long China, Vietnam and North Korea can survive as nominally >Marxist-Leninist Regimes? Ten years? Twenty years? I don't know. If and >when, these CPs cease to be ruling parties, it will be even more difficult >for Marxism to survive in Asia. I will happy if I am proved wrong. Depends on what you mean by Marxism. If you mean ML regimes like that, well no, they're dead. B ...

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