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27661 anniversary -- rank: 1000

Charles Jannuzi wrote: >Certainly no one who would have confused D >Perrin's dog shit with the statement from the >Afghan women. Nor someone who would confuse your >dog shit with anything intelligent worth >discussing. BTW, dog shit is two words in my >style book. From what I've seen of your practice, your stylebook (one word in mine) doesn't have much to offer. Lose the nastiness or take a hike. Doug

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Date:	Mon Sep 16 14:49:22 PDT 2002

27662 Anniversary -- rank: 1000

Carrol Cox wrote: >Examples. Sloppy. > >You can find examples of anything. If you can't give better (and >somewhat systematic)evidence than this, admit that you were/are blowing >out your ass. > >What is left culture anyhow? The very phrase is stultifying of any >useful discussion. Oh come on. You sound like some grumpy Baudrillard - "there is no left culture." There are parties, groups, publications, demonstrations, modes of discourse. Surely you've been expose ...

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Date:	Mon Sep 16 14:26:52 PDT 2002

27663 Anniversary -- rank: 1000

Dennis Perrin wrote: > > But the Vietnamese Communist Party does not rank among the economic >> (and, I hope, soon political) miracle regimes of East Asia, no? > >> Brad DeLong > >Well, they did rout Pol Pot and the KR, one of the better interventions of >the past 50 years. Wouldn't you say? And opposed in doing such by the U.S. Doug

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Date:	Mon Sep 16 13:36:29 PDT 2002

27664 Anniversary -- rank: 1000

Brad DeLong wrote: >No. No victory (save over Hitler, or over Imperial Japan) is worth 3 >million dead. > >But the Vietnamese Communist Party does not rank among the economic >(and, I hope, soon political) miracle regimes of East Asia, no? Much >better outcomes in South Korea and Malaysia and Thailand, no? SK derived considerable stimulus from procurement for the war in Vietnam. In the early 1960s, SK was regarded as a basket case by the development establishment, and South Vie ...

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Date:	Mon Sep 16 13:09:42 PDT 2002

27665 yeah, it was a hot summer -- rank: 1000

<http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/2002/aug/aug02.html> September 16, 2002 Globally averaged surface temperatures were the third warmest on record for June-August, based on preliminary data. The global land and ocean temperature was 0.85°F (0.47°C ) above the 1880-2001 long-term mean. Based on long-term data from the U.S. Historical Climatology Network (USHCN) and preliminary data from the Climate Division Database, the U.S. nationally averaged temperature during summer (June-Au ...

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Date:	Mon Sep 16 13:03:18 PDT 2002

27666 inside the new Camp X-Ray -- rank: 1000

[Peter K, could you ask Hitch if this is what he means by the defense of freedom and civilization?] Mirror (UK) - Sep 9 2002 INSIDE THE NEW CAMP X-RAY >From RICHARD WALLACE, US Editor at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba THIS is the first glimpse of Camp Delta, the new Camp X-Ray at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba. Here 598 al-Qaeda and Taliban suspects from 38 countries - including seven Britons - are held without charge, without legal rights and for some, without hope. For 167 of the 168 hours in a week their wo ...

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Date:	Mon Sep 16 12:58:40 PDT 2002

27667 Iraq - the oil angle -- rank: 1000

[The oil explanation for Afg was always a stretch. Iraq ain't.] Washington Post - September 15, 2002 In Iraqi War Scenario, Oil Is Key Issue U.S. Drillers Eye Huge Petroleum Pool By Dan Morgan and David B. Ottaway Washington Post Staff Writers A U.S.-led ouster of Iraqi President Saddam Hussein could open a bonanza for American oil companies long banished from Iraq, scuttling oil deals between Baghdad and Russia, France and other countries, and reshuffling world petroleum markets, according to i ...

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Date:	Mon Sep 16 12:50:42 PDT 2002

27668 Berube weighs in -- rank: 1000

Boston Globe - September 15, 2002 POLITICS Peace puzzle Why the left can't get Iraq right By Michael Berube, 9/15/2002 HALFWAY THROUGH George W. Bush's term of office, one year since 9/11, and the ideal of moral clarity in US foreign policy couldn't be murkier. According to Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Dick Cheney, and Richard Perle, every moment we postpone war with Iraq damages our credibility; according to Brent Scowcroft, General Anthony Zinni, Lawrence Eagleburger, and James Baker III, ...

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Date:	Mon Sep 16 11:18:00 PDT 2002

27669 Saddam's doomsday plot -- rank: 1000

[is this supposed to be an argument for war?] New York Post - September 16, 2002 DOOMSDAY PLOT By NILES LATHEM WASHINGTON - U.S. intelligence officials fear that Saddam Hussein has concocted a doomsday plan that would use al Qaeda to attack America with Iraqi-provided biological weapons, The Post has learned. The threat has been raised in secret intelligence assessments provided to top military officials and White House policymakers as they prepare for war, administration officials told The Post ...

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Date:	Mon Sep 16 10:29:37 PDT 2002

27670 Terror and Counter-Terror Re: Anniversary -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >US leftists can study how leftists in other nations reacted to >terror (by other leftists, nationalists, religious fundamentalists, >etc.) and counter-terror (by the state), e.g. in Algeria, Argentina, >England, India, Israel, Peru, Sri Lanka, etc. We can learn from >their successes and failures. Happy to. What do you know about them? Doug

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Date:	Mon Sep 16 10:19:06 PDT 2002

27671 Anniversary -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >Do you actually have evidence that many leftists have refused to >condemn 9.11 terrors? All the time. On this list, in print, and in many conversations. A few people even said we deserved it - heard by my own ears, and not hearsay. Doug

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Date:	Mon Sep 16 10:17:20 PDT 2002

27672 Anniversary -- rank: 1000

Brad DeLong wrote: >May I ask why he was right? Because the U.S. had no business in Vietnam. It was inheriting the imperial role from the French, ran the country through a bunch of corrupt repressive thugs, and deserved to lose. Was a U.S. victory worth 2-3 million Indochinese deaths? Doug

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27673 Cooper on the anniversary -- rank: 1000

Dennis Robert Redmond wrote: >Adorno was, first and foremost, a Marxist Even when he was taking CIA money to re-found the Frankfurt Institute, and refusing to republish Franz Neumann's Behemoth because it was too Marxist? Doug

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27674 Lindsey: war on Iraq could cost $100b -- rank: 1000

Wall Street Journal - September 16, 2002 Bush Economic Aide Says the Cost Of Iraq War May Top $100 Billion By BOB DAVIS Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL WASHINGTON -- President Bush's chief economic adviser estimates that the U.S. may have to spend between $100 billion and $200 billion to wage a war in Iraq, but doubts that the hostilities would push the nation into recession or a sustained period of inflation. Lawrence Lindsey, head of the White House's National Economic Council, proj ...

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Date:	Mon Sep 16 07:45:57 PDT 2002

27675 Anniversary -- rank: 1000

Dennis Perrin wrote: > > Peter K. quoted Hitch: >> >> >America is the greatest of all subjects for a writer, in the first >> >place because of its infinite >> >space and depth and variety, and also because it is ultimately >> >founded upon an idea. >> >> It's rather sad to see someone of his talent descend into this kind of >cliche. >> >> Doug > >If it was meant as a cliché, that is. America -- the country fi ...

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