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27406 [lbo-talk] a shred... -- rank: 1000

...of optimism, from the latest Pew Center polling: >Despite the variable reactions to news coverage of the war, public >support for the military effort never faltered. Currently, 72% say >military action in Iraq was the right decision, while 20% say it was >the wrong decision. Support has not differed more than a few >percentage points from this mark since the war began. 72/20 could be a worse. Doug

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Date:	Wed Apr 9 13:39:08 PDT 2003

27407 [lbo-talk] Re: WBAI's ambitions -- rank: 1000

SergioL652 at aol.com wrote: >Now is this a reason for optimism or pessimism? I am really asking, >because right now I feel sick. So do I. And I don't know. Right now I'm having to contend with the standard Wall Street line that the war's end is giving a boost to confidence, so Americans will celebrate by buying more stuff. Just typing that made me feel sicker. Doug

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Date:	Wed Apr 9 13:34:22 PDT 2003

27408 [lbo-talk] Diesel -- rank: 1000

Christian Gregory wrote: >What's Bungalow 8? A trendy nightspot that's on Page Six almost every day. Doug

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Date:	Wed Apr 9 11:23:07 PDT 2003

27409 [lbo-talk] data news -- rank: 1000

------------------------------------------------------------------ | Mass Layoff Statistics Program | | | | This news release marks the resumption of the Mass Layoff Sta-| | tistics (MLS) program. It was discontinued as of Dec. 31, 2002, | | due to a lack of funding. However, funds for the MLS resumption | | were contained in H.J. Res. 2, the Omnibus Appropriation Bill, | | signed into law o ...

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Date:	Wed Apr 9 10:07:41 PDT 2003

27410 [lbo-talk] Diesel -- rank: 1000

Someone - Christian Gregory? - put out a call for Vin Diesel gossip the other day. Here's a "sighting" from the NY Post's Page Six: >VIN Diesel making out with a hot blonde named Gennifer at Bungalow 8 >after she dared him to kiss her . . .

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Date:	Wed Apr 9 09:52:24 PDT 2003

27411 [lbo-talk] Why anti-war protesting still matters -- rank: 1000

[a post to the SA debate list on why protesting matters] Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 14:55:03 +0200 From: "Peter Dwyer" <Dwyerp at nu.ac.za> To: <debate at lists.kabissa.org> Subject: [DEBATE] :Why anti-war protesting still matters 'Demonstrating is not enough' can be a healthy desire for more effective action or it can be an echo of the oldest lie our rulers pump at us that there is no point in resisting the system because all resistance is useless. For those who dismiss the im ...

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Date:	Wed Apr 9 09:48:20 PDT 2003

27412 [lbo-talk] Re: WBAI's ambitions -- rank: 1000

R wrote: >as a graduate of the post-1960's collapse, doug, i'm not optimistic >that today's antiwar fervor will grow into anything meaningful. >currently, it doesn't show signs of being anything more than a >noisy flash in the pan, coming out of nowhere, receding into >nowhere. to many people put too many hopes into what easily will >turn out to be shallow. We'll see, won't we? As Americans, we owe it to the rest of the world to do everything we can to stop these maniacs. Dou ...

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Date:	Wed Apr 9 09:40:08 PDT 2003

27413 [lbo-talk] Fischerspooner tix -- rank: 1000

Ok, now I'm revealed as both a fashion victim and a work geek, but I've got two tix for a Fischerspooner concert tonight at 8, in the Hammerstein Ballroom in NYC, and can't use them because of a deadline. Anyone who wants them, please contact me off list. Doug

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Date:	Wed Apr 9 09:38:54 PDT 2003

27414 [lbo-talk] Re: WBAI's ambitions -- rank: 1000

Nathan Newman wrote: >Cause it's so much better to get along with each other than attract new >folks and win. This is bullshit. You're the one who's passing judgment on who the good guys and bad guys are, dismissing the achivements of the antiwar movement in a short space of time against all the odds imposed by American political culture. You're diagnosing phantom pathologies - as if the war happened because WWP apologized for SH. Fuck that. The war happened because we live in an imperiali ...

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Date:	Wed Apr 9 09:34:27 PDT 2003

27415 [lbo-talk] That giant sucking sound ... -- rank: 1000

Carl Remick wrote: >"But the antiwar forces, who have had to contend from the start with >the widespread belief that their position is unpatriotic and >unsupportive of American troops engaged in deadly combat, must now >bear the additional burden of arguing with success. American losses >are relatively small: 96 dead to date, compared with 200 a day at >the height of the Vietnam War. ..." ...and Iraqi casualties beneath mention. Doug

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Date:	Wed Apr 9 09:25:02 PDT 2003

27416 [lbo-talk] Fisk on killing journalists -- rank: 1000

Independent (London) - April 9, 2003 Robert Fisk First the Americans killed the correspondent of al-Jazeera yesterday and wounded his cameraman. Then, within four hours, they attacked the Reuters television bureau in Baghdad, killing one of its cameramen and a cameraman for Spain's Tele 5 channel and wounding four other members of the Reuters staff. Was it possible to believe this was an accident? Or was it possible that the right word for these killings -- the first with a jet aircraft, the sec ...

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Date:	Wed Apr 9 09:24:22 PDT 2003

27417 Getting along (was: Re: [lbo-talk] Re: WBAI's ambitions -- rank: 1000

loupaulsen at attbi.com wrote: >Doug, the vast majority of the people who are actually doing anti-war >activity, in Chicago anyway and probably most places, DO think like that. Yup, I knew that. I was tweaking NN. Doug

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Date:	Tue Apr 8 15:58:16 PDT 2003

27418 [lbo-talk] Re: WBAI's ambitions -- rank: 1000

Nuni Wahwah wrote: >Don Rojas! Fantastic news for BAI & Pacifica ... I've enjoyed >listening to interviews with Don over the years. Doug, now you can >really say what you really want to say, even more. Never had the slightest problem with that really. Oh, well I've wanted to play some music that might not go over well (e.g. Eno's Burning Airlines, The Cure's Killing an Arab), but I didn't want to alienate listeners. By the way, I'm listening to the Bill Fletcher interview in the bac ...

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Date:	Tue Apr 8 14:54:55 PDT 2003

27419 [lbo-talk] new radio product -- rank: 1000

I've just added last Thursday's show to my radio archive <http://www.leftbusinessobserver.com/Radio.html>: April 3, 2003 Bill Fletcher, one of the principal organizers of United for Peace and Justice, on the future of the antiwar movement * Raad AlKadiri of PFC Energy on Iraq & oil * Bathsheeba Crocker of CSIS on postwar Iraq It joins: -------- * March 27, 2003 DH on politics and economics of war * contributors to Implicating Empire, on war, globalization, fundamentalism, and legitimac ...

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Date:	Tue Apr 8 14:45:39 PDT 2003

27420 [lbo-talk] Iraq war "clearer" to Americans than WW 2 -- rank: 1000

andie nachgeborenen wrote: >So, you want to get rid of the rally as ainstrument for social >change. Since the bosses have gotten rid of the strike, and the >Supreme Court has gotten rid of the election, that doesn't leave >much in the nonviolent repetoire. Writing letters maybe. You're forgetting knocking on doors, selling the revo like Girl Scout cookies! Doug

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Date:	Tue Apr 8 14:18:36 PDT 2003