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2731 [lbo-talk] What is socialism? -- rank: 1000

On Oct 14, 2010, at 1:44 PM, James Heartfield wrote: > 'stuff white people like'. (Incidentally, Doug, what would be an example of where the blog goes wrong?) Racializing the thing, to start with. It's not "white people." It's a certain subset of mostly white urbanites. And hey, I'm white, and an urbanite, but I think I like only about 25% of the things on the list. Doug

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2732 [lbo-talk] another reminder to support BtN -- rank: 1000

http://lbo-news.com/2010/10/14/another-reminder-to-support-btn/ Just reiterating yesterday s plea: if you listen to my radio show, please contribute during WBAI s fundraiser. Without WBAI, and without WBAI airing Behind the News, there would be no Behind the News. Ways to do it are online (see links here), or phone in a pledge to 212-209-2950 during my fundraising shift today, 5-6 PM New York time. The show will feature, as a fundraising premium, my June interview with Norman Finkelstein on C ...

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2733 [lbo-talk] What is socialism? -- rank: 1000

On Oct 14, 2010, at 1:02 PM, Ricky Page wrote: > The fact that both my mother and father were only 7th grade educations and I > grew-up in the slums of a rust-belt city makes this conversation very relevent > to me, I just wish this list-serve had more working-class folksto know ahat the > fuck they're talking about, reminds me of the John Lennon song, "Working Class > Hero". Which part, the "still fucking peasants" part? Doug

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2734 [lbo-talk] What is socialism? -- rank: 1000

On Oct 14, 2010, at 12:16 PM, Joseph Catron wrote: > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote: > > "Raised on the Upper East Side by a father who is a foundation executive and >> a mother who writes about criminal justice, Mr. Shute graduated from Amherst >> and worked for an antihunger charity." >> >> QED. >> > > I know you like to imagine that your little points are so obvious as to need > no ar ...

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2735 [lbo-talk] What is socialism? -- rank: 1000

On Oct 14, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Joseph Catron wrote: > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 1:53 AM, Somebody Somebody <philos_case at yahoo.com>wrote: > > Somebody: Yes, not only is it better to be an assembly line worker than a >> peasant >> > > Tell it to these guys: > > http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/16/fashion/16farmer.html "Raised on the Upper East Side by a father who is a foundation executive and a mother who writes about criminal justice, Mr. Shute graduated ...

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2736 [lbo-talk] What is socialism? -- rank: 1000

On Oct 13, 2010, at 11:15 PM, 123hop at comcast.net wrote: > Why is it bad to be a peasant? Why is it so much better to be an assembly line worker? I think a lot of people prefer being a factory worker to being a peasant. The people who prefer peasantry tend to be alienated urbanites. Doug

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Date:	Thu Oct 14 04:31:56 PDT 2010

2737 [lbo-talk] Rêve Générale -- rank: 1000

On Oct 13, 2010, at 4:10 PM, Dennis Claxton wrote: > I'm not disagreeing, but what are the chances? Close to zero, of course.

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2738 [lbo-talk] Rêve Générale -- rank: 1000

On Oct 13, 2010, at 4:31 PM, Eric Beck wrote: > I wonder why anticapitalists' Thinking Big would mean building better, > more efficient modes for transporting capital's crappy shit around. I was thinking of people, and I don't think you think that people are crappy shit, even those who live under capitalism. But, aside from that, that "crappy shit" includes food, appliances, clothes, and a lot of other stuff it'd be pretty hard to live without. Doug

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2739 [lbo-talk] Rêve Générale -- rank: 1000

On Oct 13, 2010, at 3:57 PM, Dennis Claxton wrote: > But didn't we have that pace here before? How do you repeat that? With big gobs of public investment. The FT had a piece the other week about Chinese rail building. The lead reported how Schwarzenegger was on a tour of China looking to purchase equipment to replace the state's aging rail system - which, as they pointed out, was built by Chinese immigrant labor a century earlier. Doug

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2740 [lbo-talk] Rêve Générale -- rank: 1000

On Oct 13, 2010, at 3:17 PM, Dennis Claxton wrote: > At 11:48 AM 10/13/2010, Doug Henwood wrote: > >> This is like some Clintonesque, V-chippy micro-initiative. Think big, man! Look at the pace of Chinese rail-building, for example. > > > I like this kind of work because before getting into any suggestions about what is to be done, it gets down to the nitty-gritty of how things (infrastructure) are put together. Well sure, but hacking the Google traffic API is so enormously ...

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2741 [lbo-talk] Destroying the humanities -- rank: 1000

On Oct 13, 2010, at 3:08 PM, 123hop at comcast.net wrote: > You can bet they will continue to teach the classics at Harvard. They will, but not a lot of current students are taking them. At least that's what my personal experience tells me. Doug

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2742 [lbo-talk] Rêve Générale -- rank: 1000

On Oct 13, 2010, at 1:57 PM, Dennis Claxton wrote: > I prefer stuff like this. This guy just went from Los Angeles to New York. He just became Director of the Network Architecture Lab at the Columbia University Graduate School of Architecture, Planning, and Preservation: > > > http://www.c-lab.columbia.edu/0162.html "Still, instead of suggesting that we add lanes to highways, the government might find a lower-cost solution in simply making more sensor data publicly available t ...

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2743 [lbo-talk] support WBAI, and BtN, please -- rank: 1000

On Oct 13, 2010, at 2:15 PM, shrill.polemic wrote: > Governance and operation of community media outlets seems particularly > daunting. For all the talk about "democracy" there isn't much > consensus on what that means, or what part the the audience should > play in programming decisions or outreach. It's not an unbiased sample, but from my experience at WBAI, my answer would be: none. At least in the formal sense of electing a board. People have no idea what the issues ar ...

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2744 [lbo-talk] Rêve Générale -- rank: 1000

On Oct 13, 2010, at 1:34 PM, dredmond at efn.org wrote: > On Wed, October 13, 2010 7:23 am, Doug Henwood wrote: > >>> "Rêve Générale" >> >> Oh, those French! But at least they back up their charming discourse with >> some serious action. Here, we've got about 40 people deploying puppets. > > All is not lost. The US digital culture can still produce great stuff like > this: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbkXTSs3bvU > > (Trailer ...

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2745 [lbo-talk] support WBAI, and BtN, please -- rank: 1000

On Oct 13, 2010, at 1:49 PM, Bhaskar Sunkara wrote: > I donated in April and they never sent me the ballot they promised, but I > suppose I'll toss them something again. Hopefully, we'll be subsidizing > Behind the News and not some replacement show about the > anti-carcinogenic properties of Agave or Project MKULTRA's role in the crack > epidemic. The current interim program director was at KPFK in LA a couple of years ago, where the "big name" strategy was to put Rose ...

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