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26971 [lbo-talk] Re: money for Bechtel/the story NOT told -- rank: 1000

Paul wrote: >Foolishly, I missed Radio Henwood so I can't comment on Parenti's >view until I listen on the archive. He didn't say it on the radio - he said it over the second or third beer. > But offhand I don't see the logic. The Bush crowd really see Iraq >as a first step, a "demonstration effect" redefining the position of >the 3rd world as well as relations within the richer nations. They >have even said so. Why would they blur their own message of U.S. >p ...

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Date:	Fri Aug 29 09:32:12 PDT 2003

26972 [lbo-talk] Re: money for Bechtel/the story NOT told -- rank: 1000

Bill Bartlett wrote: >Why do you find it so hard to believe that they are that >incompetent? The extreme right-wing of politics have never been the >brightest sparks. I mean, look at Pauline Hanson and her ilk in >Australia, thick as two short planks. > >GW Bush is a moron. The people surrounding him in government are >sycophants who admire him, so how bright can they be? I'm not talking about Bush alone, but the whole apparatus of the U.S. empire, which is pretty hard to ca ...

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Date:	Fri Aug 29 09:28:47 PDT 2003

26973 [lbo-talk] Re: money for Bechtel/the story NOT told -- rank: 1000

Paul wrote: >Clearly the occupation's failures point to deeper social and >political problems with U.S. policy than just "security". Christian Parenti also said that he's talked to people who surmise that at least a faction of the Bush admin wants Iraq in chaos, as does the Israeli government. That would make some sense - they're not *that* incompetent, are they? Doug

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Date:	Fri Aug 29 07:27:29 PDT 2003

26974 [lbo-talk] Cockburn Pilloried On Fox? -- rank: 1000

Michael Pugliese quoted: >Are you aware of the murderous history of George W. Bush - indeed, >of the entire Bush family? Gee, the right never said nasty things about Clinton, did it? Doug

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Date:	Fri Aug 29 07:16:15 PDT 2003

26975 [lbo-talk] against Labor Day -- rank: 1000

[so we go from the depoliticized Labor Day, meant as an antidote to the more dangerous May Day, to this...] Wall Street Journal - August 29, 2003 DE GUSTIBUS As It Turns Out, Solidarity Is Not Forever By TUNKU VARADARAJAN I don't mean at all to be a killjoy here, and mean even less to suggest that the holiday be abolished, but I can't help thinking that Labor Day -- in its origins no better than a kind of blue-collar Kwanzaa -- ought to be regarded with a dash of skepticism. Labor Day is really ...

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Date:	Fri Aug 29 07:09:07 PDT 2003

26976 [lbo-talk] WashCon warns Brazil -- rank: 1000

[Williamson didn't really "draw up" the WashCon - he just named it.] 'Washington consensus' author warns Brazil of risk Thursday August 28, 5:29 pm ET By Andrew Hay BRASILIA, Brazil, Aug 28 (Reuters) - John Williamson, who drew up the "Washington consensus" of economic policies, on Thursday said Brazil had learned a lot from recent economic crises but was still vulnerable to financial shocks. The British economist said Brazil's high interest rates and high level of public deb ...

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Date:	Thu Aug 28 16:13:35 PDT 2003

26977 [lbo-talk] Iraqi public opinion -- rank: 1000

Christian Parenti, freshly back from a visit to Baghdad, just said on my radio show that Iraqis aren't happy with the occupation, but most not to the point of taking up arms against it. He also said that he was frequently told: "Take our oil. You want it, take it. Just give us electricity, water, and basic security." Later, off air, he said that a (Coxian) U.S. pullout at this stage would result in total chaos. The position of the Iraqi Communist Workers Party, one of the rare secular ...

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Date:	Thu Aug 28 15:33:28 PDT 2003

26978 [lbo-talk] Pollitt on Dean -- rank: 1000

Wojtek Sokolowski wrote: >In any case, it is hard to tell without knowing the details. I am thus >not dismissing these results, but I remain skeptical. Skepticism is warranted. Christian Parenti says he experienced no hostility towards him as an American when he was in Baghdad - not a trace. But he said Iraqis make fine distinctions between people and their governments, because of their own experience under a wretched regime. Still, I suspect that Iraqis' attitudes toward the U.S. are a l ...

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Date:	Thu Aug 28 12:11:38 PDT 2003

26979 [lbo-talk] Pollitt on Dean -- rank: 1000

Chris Brooke wrote: >On 28/8/03 5:45 pm, "Doug Henwood" <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote: > >> Carrol Cox wrote: >> >>> U.S. out of Iraq! >>> >>> U.N. out of Iraq! >> >> Does anyone know what Iraqis think? And that's a real question, not a >> rhetorical question. > >There's some survey data for Baghdad from early July carried out by YouGov >for the UK's Channel Four News and Spectator magazines over at > ...

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Date:	Thu Aug 28 11:00:44 PDT 2003

26980 [lbo-talk] Brazilian recession deepens -- rank: 1000

From: The Dismal Scientist <listserv at dismal.com> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The GDP for Brazil economic release has been updated. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- GDP for Brazil (-1.4%) The Brazilian economy sank deeper into recession during the second quarter. According to IBGE, the Brazilian statistical agency, real GDP contracted by 1.6% during the second quarter from the previous quarter on a ...

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Date:	Thu Aug 28 09:46:54 PDT 2003

26981 [lbo-talk] Pollitt on Dean -- rank: 1000

Carrol Cox wrote: >U.S. out of Iraq! > >U.N. out of Iraq! Does anyone know what Iraqis think? And that's a real question, not a rhetorical question. Doug

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Date:	Thu Aug 28 09:45:39 PDT 2003

26982 [lbo-talk] Malaysian punks told to conform -- rank: 1000

kjkhoo at softhome.net wrote: >The punk and hard metal scene is, apparently, a largely Malay youth >scene. They are banned from state-run radio and TV, both federally >operated, but they have their own recording venues and marketing >outlets, often the night markets where one used to also be able to >obtain pirated VCDs and DVDs ranging from the pornographic to the >religious, and their own gathering points where they perform and >dance. Don't these Malay youth understand th ...

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Date:	Thu Aug 28 09:37:48 PDT 2003

26983 [lbo-talk] Arnie recounts his sexual history -- rank: 1000

New York Post [Page Six] - August 28, 2003 ARNOLD BOASTED OF SEX ORGIES ARNOLD Schwarzenegger once boasted about participating in a gang bang with other bodybuilders during an X-rated magazine interview he gave back in 1977. The California gubernatorial wannabe noted that "everybody jumped on" the woman involved and "took her upstairs where we all got together." Schwarzenegger added that not every muscleman joined the orgy, "just the guys who can [bleep] in front of othe ...

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Date:	Thu Aug 28 07:32:31 PDT 2003

26984 [lbo-talk] Economy Grew More Than Expected -- rank: 1000

Dwayne Monroe wrote: >[Synopsis: lots of military and continued consumer >spending are putting fuel in the tank. I wonder, why >are consumers still buying as if incomes were secure?] 1) About 94% of the labor force is employed, and real wage growth is modestly positive. 2) Cashout mortgage refinancing has been injecting $160 billion a year into personal checking accounts. 3) Americans are optimistic people, and they like to express that optimism by buying durable goods. Doug

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Date:	Thu Aug 28 07:27:36 PDT 2003

26985 [lbo-talk] Yet Another One Right Out of The Onion -- rank: 1000

mike larkin wrote: >http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/iraq/la-fg-wmd28aug28,1,2697529.story?coll=la-home-headlines > >"Frustrated at the failure to find Saddam Hussein's >suspected stockpiles of chemical and biological >weapons, U.S. and allied intelligence agencies have >launched a major effort to determine if they were >victims of bogus Iraqi defectors who planted >disinformation to mislead the West before the war... Uh, Chalabi? Having seen the guy perform b ...

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Date:	Thu Aug 28 07:25:02 PDT 2003