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26866 [lbo-talk] Re: US, Israel, & New York Times (was Re: Israel Disease Spreds) -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >There is something odd about thinking of only the most blatantly >aggressive war and military occupation as "imperialism," though. >The US empire had mainly been what is called an informal empire even >before the alleged transition from "imperialism" to "empire" that >Negri theorizes. The organization of the world is a lot more complicated than a lot of U.S.-centric models would have it, whether it's the Bush admin's or a trad ...

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Date:	Mon Dec 8 15:28:45 PST 2003

26867 [lbo-talk] Gore to endorse Dean -- rank: 1000

Gore Is Set to Endorse Dean For Democratic Nomination Associated Press [via WSJ.com - December 8, 2003 5:27 p.m.] MANCHESTER, N.H. -- Former Vice President Al Gore intends to endorse Howard Dean for the Democratic presidential nomination, a dramatic move that could cement Mr. Dean's position in the fight for the party's nod. Mr. Gore, who lost to George W. Bush in the disputed 2000 election, has agreed to endorse Mr. Dean in Harlem in New York City on Tuesday and then travel with the former Verm ...

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Date:	Mon Dec 8 14:35:11 PST 2003

26868 [lbo-talk] Fwd: NEW DEM DAILY: Changing the Subject on Cultural Issues -- rank: 1000

[I assume the DLC approach is just to agree with the social conservatives...] ============================================= THE NEW DEM DAILY, 08-Dec-03 Political commentary & analysis from the DLC ============================================= [ New Democrats Online: http://www.ndol.org ] Changing the Subject on Cultural Issues Next year, the Democratic presidential nominee will face no greater challenge than bridging the cultural divide. Bill Clinton was the most successful Democratic lead ...

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Date:	Mon Dec 8 12:47:30 PST 2003

26869 [lbo-talk] please, ralph, NOOO!!! -- rank: 1000

Carrol Cox wrote: >Doug Henwood wrote: >> I wrote the part that urged Ralph to perform a Virginia >> Woolf-style coda. >> > >This is "correct-lineism" enforced with a heavy clunky moralism that the >third international could have envied. :-) Hey, it's hoped that Ralph will embrace this approach in an act of voluntary self-criticism! Doug

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Date:	Mon Dec 8 11:44:37 PST 2003

26870 [lbo-talk] after that great victory in Samarra -- rank: 1000

Financial Times - December 8, 2003 Shoot-out leaves control of town in doubt By Charles Clover in Samarra A week after a vicious firefight in the streets of Samarra, in which US forces claim to have killed 54 guerrilla fighters, it was unclear yesterday who really controlled the town. At the one remaining US military compound in the city, US soldiers yesterday refused to leave their sand-bagged bunkers to meet a western visitor at the gate. "It's dangerous here! Go away!" yelled one. T ...

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Date:	Mon Dec 8 11:43:51 PST 2003

26871 [lbo-talk] please, ralph, NOOO!!! -- rank: 1000

Michael Dawson -PSU wrote: >Aren't there are some very positive possibilities that could emerge from >another Nader run? What if he runs, and Dean helps him get into the >debates, and then both Dean and Nader double-team Bush? Why would Dean ever want to do this? It makes no sense to invite someone into a debate who might draw your votes away. And the pressures of product differentiation would force Nader to attack Dean as well as Bush. Doug

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Date:	Mon Dec 8 11:31:22 PST 2003

26872 [lbo-talk] please, ralph, NOOO!!! -- rank: 1000

Brad DeLong wrote: >>Doug Henwood wrote: >> >>>Lance Murdoch wrote: >>> >>>>These DLC "new" Democrats are perfectly happy >>>>with half of Americans, mostly poor and working class Americans, being >>>>disengaged from politics. >>> >>>But the DLC guy, Lieberman, is unlikely to get the nomination, and >>>they're beside themselves over Dean's alleged (and phantasmic) >>>McGovernish libera ...

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Date:	Mon Dec 8 10:08:45 PST 2003

26873 [lbo-talk] U.S. killed 9 kids, target had left town 10 days earlier -- rank: 1000

US child bombing account challenged Local villagers in Afghanistan have contradicted US reports that the target of an air strike that killed nine children also died in the raid. The attack was carried out on Saturday in the village of Hutala, in a remote area of southern Ghazni province. US officials said they were acting on extensive intelligence and had killed a former Taleban militant, Mullah Wazir. But local Afghans told the BBC's Crispin Thorold the intended target had left the village 10 d ...

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Date:	Sun Dec 7 21:39:01 PST 2003

26874 [lbo-talk] Re: US, Israel, & New York Times (was Re: Israel Disease Spreds) -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >I almost begin to think that U.S. imperialism exists on LBO-talk >only when it comes to discussions of Israel and its discrimination >against Palestinians. It's a good thing you said "almost begin," becuase that's otherwise a ludicrous statement. I don't think there were many dissenters from the view that the war on Iraq was an instance of U.S. imperialism. Doug

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Date:	Sun Dec 7 19:58:52 PST 2003

26875 [lbo-talk] Bogus Inflation Yardstick and GDP Growth rates -- rank: 1000

Brad Mayer wrote: >Since the 1970's, inflation is basically calculated from the wage >level; profits do not factor into inflation calculations. This >makes sense if you think like a capitalist: the whole point is >profit without limit, therefore the rate of profit cannot be >subordinated as a measurement gauge in any way useful as an >"economic management tool" - that would be the subordination of the >capitalist pursuit of profit to a "larger rationality& ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Dec 7 08:59:10 PST 2003

26876 [lbo-talk] Re: the postmodern prince -- rank: 1000

Brian Charles Dauth wrote: >Unfortunately, this is a mistake. The concept of "rich individuality" is >just another way of propping up a false sense of identity. Had Marx >expanded his horizons to Eastern thought he might have avoided this error. Not for me, thank you. Maybe I'm hopelessly corrupted by the West, but I have no interest in embracing anti-individualist notions from the East. I'm a socialist because, like Marx and many of his followers, I think that capitalism li ...

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Date:	Sun Dec 7 08:46:44 PST 2003

26877 [lbo-talk] US, Israel, & New York Times (was Re: Israel Disease Spreds) -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >What you two object to -- the idea that the US government has >already resorted to do in Iraq what the state of Israel has been >doing -- is not so much Brad's own take as the headline and main >argument of the top front-page article in the _New York Times_ today. No. I read the Times piece and thought it was quite good. The Israeli parallels are all over the article. What I objected to in Brad's subject heading was the use of the word "disease," wh ...

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Date:	Sun Dec 7 08:38:22 PST 2003

26878 [lbo-talk] Israel Disease Spreds -- rank: 1000

Call me over-sensitive, but there's something creepy about the phrase "Israel disease." The U.S. has shown no reticence about brutality - why nominate it as a particularly Israeli affliction? Doug

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Date:	Sat Dec 6 22:35:19 PST 2003

26879 [lbo-talk] US kills 9 Afghan kids, regrets error -- rank: 1000

Nine Children Among 10 Dead in U.S. Afghan Raid KABUL (Reuters) - Aircraft from the U.S.-led military force killed nine children in an attack in the south of Afghanistan (news - web sites) on a "known terrorist" responsible for the deaths of two road contractors, the military said on Sunday. The children were the latest civilians killed accidentally by U.S.-led forces in Afghanistan, who are pursuing remnants of the Taliban regime overthrown in late 2001 and allied Islamic militants . ...

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Date:	Sat Dec 6 22:33:10 PST 2003

26880 [lbo-talk] The bottom line -- rank: 1000

Grant Lee wrote: > > >KERRY O'BRIEN [quoting Mark Latham]: Howard the arse-licker and the brown >nose kissing bums, as >> >you put it, Abbott hanging out of the Queen's backside, the conga line of >> >suckholes. >> >> Damn, I wish American public life were more like this. >> >> Doug > >Even setting aside his Third Way-ism [Book Review: Civilising Global Capital >by Mark Latham, Allen and Unwin, Sydney 1998 >http://www.wsws.or ...

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