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26731 [lbo-talk] response to Sapir -- rank: 1000

Marcsapir9 at cs.com wrote: >I'm a fan of your Left Business Observer reports--I've heard you on >KPFA for many years. I think your e-mail below is a bit officious >and sensationalistic in its own right. If you're familiar with my work, and even a "fan," then you should know that I'm obsessed with getting the numbers straight and facing things as they are instead of as we'd like them to be. I'm afraid Retropoll falls short on both counts. Your press release was spun at a ver ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Dec 21 09:01:21 PST 2003

26732 [lbo-talk] Fwd: honesty -- rank: 1000

[I forwarded a copy of my critique of Retropoll to its director, Marc Sapir, who responds. I'll cc my response to his response in the next message.] Doug, I'm a fan of your Left Business Observer reports--I've heard you on KPFA for many years. I think your e-mail below is a bit officious and sensationalistic in its own right. I believe that we've been back and forth in the past on some of this, but I welcome it in any case. For starters I do believe that our web site completely explains our ...

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Date:	Sun Dec 21 08:36:17 PST 2003

26733 [lbo-talk] Re: barbarian of the moment -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: 9 posts on Wednesday 4 posts on Thursday 1 post on Friday 7 posts on Saturday 21 posts in 4 days, or 5.25 a day. The limit is 3, as you may have heard. Doug

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Date:	Sat Dec 20 21:53:24 PST 2003

26734 [lbo-talk] European Social Forum -- rank: 1000

[I haven't gotten a chance to read these yet but this sounds interesting.] From: "peter waterman" <waterman at antenna.nl> To: "debate: SA discussion list " <debate at lists.kabissa.org> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 11:49:52 +0100 One of the most intensive dialogues/debates on the nature and future of the WSF has been taking place in the UK, around the proposed European Social Forum, London, 2004. All of the issues concerning the future of the Forum process seem to be a ...

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Date:	Sat Dec 20 15:27:57 PST 2003

26735 [lbo-talk] Online Poll: Tell Nader to Go Fuck Himself -- rank: 1000

Kevin Robert Dean wrote: > > > Do you really think that someone who talks about the Goddess of Peace >> > taking us in Her arms, and who brags about the endorsement by the >> > forest animals, stands a chance of getting more than 2% of the vote? > > >But believing in a bearded guy who walks on water "saving" you from >your sins is any more normal? That's not the point. Christianity, sad to say, is a widely shared belief system that's been aroun ...

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Date:	Sat Dec 20 15:22:09 PST 2003

26736 [lbo-talk] Re: barbarian of the moment -- rank: 1000

Arash wrote: >Doug, I've seen you make this point before, but I don't really know what you >think Chomsky isn't acknowledging about "the active desire not to know." We've been through this a million times before, but I'll say it briefly one more time. It's not enough to get "facts" out there. Many Americans just don't want to hear or know about the nasty things our government does. On some factual level they might actually "know" - but that knowledge is compar ...

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Date:	Sat Dec 20 14:31:32 PST 2003

26737 [lbo-talk] Denver Greens Say No to Nader -- rank: 1000

Volume is too high on this list, so such posts are, or should be, discouraged. Doug Devine, James wrote: >Doug, what are the rules about submissions to lbo-talk? do >contributions have to be informative in some way, or at least >clever? the one below isn't. >Jim Devine > > -----Original Message----- > From: mike larkin [mailto:mike_larkin2001 at yahoo.com] > Sent: Sat 12/20/2003 9:41 AM > To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org > Cc: > Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Denver Greens ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sat Dec 20 11:16:15 PST 2003

26738 [lbo-talk] Alternative polls (and a warning on polls) on retropoll.org -- rank: 1000

Andrei wrote: >Well, in the case of Kucinich I think it's because average Americans don't >seem to even know he's one of the candidates. And that's probably cuz >they're getting their information about who's running from the mainstream >media which seems to have decided early on, for whatever reason, that Dean >should get the nomination and that Kucinich is not a serious candidate. >Even the majority of my friends, who are all liberals in their late 20s >or early 30s, hadn't ...

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Date:	Sat Dec 20 11:07:24 PST 2003

26739 [lbo-talk] Alternative polls -- rank: 1000

overqualified wrote: >On this site U find alternative polls and a critique of usual opinion polls >(like the factual one that about 70% of interviewed in any >poll are "not respondent"). >Highly recommended. >http://www.retropoll.org/ On looking at the actual question compared to the press release, this gang spins a lot more than Gallup. Press release <http://www.retropoll.org/press_release_poll03.htm>: ------------- >At least one in three Americans believe that ...

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Date:	Sat Dec 20 11:05:16 PST 2003

26740 [lbo-talk] quote of the day -- rank: 1000

>YOUR QUOTE OF THE DAY > "If you really want to hurt your parents and you don't have the >nerve to be a homosexual, the least you can do is go into the >arts." -- Kurt Vonnegut

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Date:	Sat Dec 20 10:50:03 PST 2003

26741 [lbo-talk] Denver Greens Say No to Nader -- rank: 1000

Andrei wrote: >I've read that Nader's plan is to enter the race only if Kucinich doesn't >get the nomination. Since the chances of that are less than zero - not literally of course - then Ralph is going to run. He'd better get Secret Service protection. Doug

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Date:	Sat Dec 20 09:47:37 PST 2003

26742 [lbo-talk] marx, clausewitz, left-wing militarism -- rank: 1000

Jeet Heer wrote: >I'm working on an aritcle about the various left-wing traditions >with regard to military policy. I remember that someone once posted >an interesting comment about Marx's debt to Clausewitz, along with a >citation on this. But I can't find that earlier post even with a >google search. Did I just imagine this? Does Marx owe anything to >Clausewitz. Also, is it true that Marx and Engels made valuable >contributions as military analysts? >Any enlightenment ...

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Date:	Sat Dec 20 09:44:16 PST 2003

26743 [lbo-talk] Online Poll: Tell Nader to Go Fuck Himself -- rank: 1000

Jon Johanning wrote: >So DK or someone on his staff has a colorful way with words -- does >that make him ineligible for the Oval Office? No, but it makes such a candidate totally unelectable. Worse, it makes him or her someone who wouldn't even lose with some dignity. Doug

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Date:	Sat Dec 20 09:35:28 PST 2003

26744 [lbo-talk] Alternative polls (and a warning on polls) on retropoll.org -- rank: 1000

overqualified wrote: >On this site U find alternative polls and a critique of usual opinion polls >(like the factual one that about 70% of interviewed in any >poll are "not respondent"). These results are a bit hard to believe if you spend any time talking to average Americans, or look at the results of elections. Why, for example, aren't Kucinich and Sharpton attracting five or ten times the support they actually are? Doug

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Date:	Sat Dec 20 09:33:18 PST 2003

26745 [lbo-talk] when will the press stop circulating nonsense? -- rank: 1000

Editor & Publisher - December 19, 2003 NEW YORK -- When will the press stop circulating dubious or fabricated claims -- whether from Bush administration officials or intelligence abroad? The latest chapter unfolded this week with wide publicity -- capped by a favorable mention in a William Safire column in The New York Times on Monday and the usual hosannas on Fox News -- concerning a supposed document that linked 9/11 hijacker Mohammad Atta to Saddam Hussein (news - web sites). This sort of ...

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Date:	Fri Dec 19 21:30:14 PST 2003