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26716 [lbo-talk] They simply 'failed' -- rank: 1000

Joseph Wanzala wrote: >My case is that there are still many unanswered questions about 9-11 No more! Stop!!! Doug

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Date:	Mon Dec 22 14:30:21 PST 2003

26717 [lbo-talk] me in London, Jan 28 -- rank: 1000

I'll be on a promotional junket to London at the end of January, centering around an appearance at the University of Delaware's London campus on January 28. More details to follow. Tell all your friends! Doug

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Date:	Mon Dec 22 14:18:31 PST 2003

26718 [lbo-talk] formatting -- rank: 1000

Please, oh please, set your mailers to plain text when posting to this list. All the HTML coding adds useless bytes and often produces unreadable gibberish in some mailers (especially in the digest version). Doug

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Date:	Mon Dec 22 14:01:13 PST 2003

26719 [lbo-talk] Atheism -- rank: 1000

Brian Siano wrote: >Doug, I'm not agreeing with Carrol, but you're missing a distinction >here. A _particular_ religion, sect, or cult is certainly a mass >movement. But saying that "religion" _in general_ is a mass movement >is like saying that "politics" or "science" or even "eating" are >mass movements. They're practices that humans engage in, and >_within_ those practices, movements (or theories, or ideologies, or >tastes) emerge, ...

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Date:	Mon Dec 22 13:48:04 PST 2003

26720 [lbo-talk] They simply 'failed' -- rank: 1000

Jordan Hayes wrote: >Joseph Wanzala <jwanzala at hotmail.com> writes: > >> Now Mueller's comments seem to contradict everything >> that's been said. > >... and your point is? > >Is your point that we don't really know who did this, that it's somehow >a mystery? > >Because now it's just getting annoying. It is. This thread is tedious and should be shot. Doug

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Date:	Mon Dec 22 13:42:36 PST 2003

26721 [lbo-talk] Atheism -- rank: 1000

Carrol Cox wrote: >Yes. Jim explains my point precisely. And no, religion is _not_ a mass >_movement_; neither is watching television or wearing clothing -- though >huge masses of people do both. Every so often Doug says something which >makes me wonder if he has ever read a page of political history. Nope, not even a paragraph. Why isn't religion a mass movement? It involves large groups of ideologically and organizationally affiliated people with common goals who affect social life ...

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Date:	Mon Dec 22 12:09:21 PST 2003

26722 [lbo-talk] Conrad Black: logrolling at the high end -- rank: 1000

New York Times - December 22, 2003 Friendship and Business Blur in the World of a Media Baron By JACQUES STEINBERG and GERALDINE FABRIKANT On the dust jacket of his recently published biography of Franklin D. Roosevelt, Conrad M. Black, the embattled media magnate, collected laudatory blurbs from an impressive set of conservative thinkers. Henry A. Kissinger writes, "No biography of Roosevelt is more thoughtful and readable." The columnist George F. Will calls the book a "delight ...

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Date:	Mon Dec 22 12:06:39 PST 2003

26723 [lbo-talk] The wisdom of librarians -- rank: 1000

Chuck0 wrote: >From one of my librarian lists: > >"The Bush administration has raised the nation's antiterrorism alert to >orange. So who says the capture of Saddam Hussein has made us safer?" Hey, you can't let people get complacent now that High Value Target #1 is in custody. I wonder if there's any truth to Marilyn Manson's contention in Bowling for Columbine that fear encourages consumption. Nothing like a pre-Christmas Orange Alert in a disappointing holiday shopping ...

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Date:	Mon Dec 22 10:06:05 PST 2003

26724 [lbo-talk] Re: barbarian of the moment - response to Doug -- rank: 1000

Arash wrote: >Yes, people can believe what they want with or without the facts, but having >the facts out there would make it a much less comfortable environment for >their delusions. I finally got to see Bowling for Columbine last night, a movie filled with uncomfortable facts that millions have seen. The DVD comes with several interviews, and in one, Michael Moore concedes that after watching, most people will resume their normal lives and pretty much forget those uncomfortable facts. ...

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Date:	Mon Dec 22 09:52:47 PST 2003

26725 [lbo-talk] Re: barbarian of the moment -- rank: 1000

Miles Jackson wrote: >I vaguely remember a historian's claim that about 1/3 of the American >colonists in the mid 1700s supported the revo, 1/3 were loyal to >G III, and 1/3 were undecided/ambivalent. Don't know if this >is accurate, but I think Carrol has a good point: political >change is not simply a product of universal consensus. For sure, but it requires more than a lunatic fringe, and we're not doing much better than that right now. Doug

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Date:	Mon Dec 22 09:49:09 PST 2003

26726 [lbo-talk] Green Nazism -- rank: 1000

Craig Smith wrote: >The organization for which I work, the Libertarian National Socialist >Green Party, also offers a resources page: > >http://www.nazi.org/library/environment_index.html > >National Socialism is neither leftist nor rightist; it is naturalist, >and inherently environmental. > > > _ >|_|_ > _| | http://www.nazi.org/ Bye! Doug

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Date:	Mon Dec 22 09:43:25 PST 2003

26727 [lbo-talk] the Kurds got SH -- rank: 1000

[Is the Sunday Herald credible?] Sunday Herald (Glasgow) - December 21, 2003 REVEALED: WHO REALLY FOUND SADDAM? By Foreign Editor David Pratt It was exactly one week ago at 3.15pm Baghdad time, when a beaming Paul Bremer made that now-famous announce ment: "Ladies and gentlemen, we got him!" Saddam Hussein: High Value Target Number One. The Glorious Leader. The Lion of Babylon had been snared. Iraq's most wanted -- the ace of spades -- had become little more than an ace in the hole. In ...

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Date:	Mon Dec 22 07:53:57 PST 2003

26728 [lbo-talk] Atheism -- rank: 1000

Carrol Cox wrote: >I've always described myself as an atheist by birthright, and the >immense amount of Christian and other "spiritual" material to which any >student of renaissance & 18th-c literature is exposed never for a minute >led me to reconsider that birthright. "Spirituality" baffles me -- and >the most likely explanation for its continued grip on so many seems to >me to be that it is at bottom spoiled solidarity. Even as an empty >verbal for ...

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Date:	Mon Dec 22 06:37:52 PST 2003

26729 [lbo-talk] new radio product -- rank: 1000

Newly added to my radio archive <http://www.leftbusinessobserver.com/Radio.html>: December 18, 2003 Larry Birns, director of the Council on Hemispheric Affairs, on the Central America Free Trade Agreement * Simon Head, author of The New Ruthless Economy, on working in the era of surveillance, restructuring, and speedup it joins -------- December 11, 2003 Steffie Woolhandler of Physicians for a National Health Program on the Medicare reform bill * Robert Pollin, author of Countours of Desce ...

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Date:	Sun Dec 21 12:26:25 PST 2003

26730 [lbo-talk] Lula's New Deal -- rank: 1000

[Lula & his supporters have been claiming that "economic stabilization" was the first task followed by a more progressive agenda. But it's always seemed that the two goals were incompatible - that "stabilization" means pleasing the markets, which like austerity, and progress means flipping the bird to austerity. We'll see if anything comes of this.] Lula prepares "New Deal" to help the poor Sunday December 21, 9:48 am ET By Axel Bugge BRASILIA, Brazil, Dec 21 (R ...

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Date:	Sun Dec 21 10:28:44 PST 2003