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24826 [lbo-talk] Campaigning vs. Voting -- rank: 1000

nathanne at nathannewman.org wrote: > > From: Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> >> My own view is that one needs to discredit the electoral process by rather >> spreading ideas on how to create a system of dual power, so that >> eventually very few people go to the polls but many participate in other >> forms of political organisation. > >That are what? Dominated by elite intellectuals, without all the >grubiness of one person, one vote? I di ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Nov 18 15:32:03 PST 2003

24827 [lbo-talk] Campaigning vs. Voting -- rank: 1000

Tahir Wood wrote: >From: Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> >Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Campaigning vs. Voting >Reply-To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org > >Tahir Wood wrote: > >>The true political cul de sac: thinking that you can ever get rid of >>the right by voting for the left. > >Three questions: 1) Who actually thinks that? >The election is not even here and yet it is the dominant topic on >your list - who to vote for, how to support a particular ca ...

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Date:	Tue Nov 18 15:31:41 PST 2003

24828 [lbo-talk] Re: republicans "stealing" elections -- rank: 1000

frank scott wrote: >sad to hear intelligent people still buying into this democratic party >myth of florida being "stolen" by repubs...in view of the corrupt >nature of what is called american democracy under the two party system, >accusing one of these of stealing from the other is like accusing the >colombian drug mafia of "stealing' from the italian drug mafia... Is this a Dem party myth? The Dems rolled right over in Florida, and party tops never mention it. T ...

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Date:	Tue Nov 18 15:27:39 PST 2003

24829 [lbo-talk] Re: What's at stake? -- rank: 1000

JBrown72073 at cs.com wrote: >Think about it, say in September polls show that some Democratic nominee is 8 >points ahead. You really think that election's happening? I say another >terrorist attack requires the country to either suddenly pull behind >its putative >leader or, uh, postpone the election--security concerns, ya know. It's only >resistance that has and will expose these folks, not quiescence, however it's >being justified. See, that's how bad things have gotte ...

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Date:	Tue Nov 18 14:36:09 PST 2003

24830 [lbo-talk] WBAI crisis -- rank: 1000

[Things are very dire at WBAI, where I do my show. The station's survival is at risk. Expenditures have been rising while income - and listenership - have been falling. The station desperately needs to widen its appeal, but I'm not sure anyone knows how to do that. And I'm afraid that lots of people around the station view any attempts to preach beyond the choir as suspect. Here's a report from one of the leading "Take Back Pacifica" activists. Well, they got it back, but it's not thri ...

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Date:	Tue Nov 18 13:59:19 PST 2003

24831 [lbo-talk] Doug's book -- rank: 1000

Charles Brown wrote: >The below didn't really come out right. I was thinking of a thank you to >Doug for the acknowledgment , but I guess I didn't want to presume to speak >for the list or that I was necessarily one of the list members who >contributed or whatever. Anyway, I will presume to say thank you for the >list, Doug. You're welcome, but I meant the thank you to the list too. It gives me hope that all manner of leftists can get together and have a (mostly) civilized conver ...

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Date:	Tue Nov 18 10:11:42 PST 2003

24832 [lbo-talk] Campaigning vs. Voting -- rank: 1000

Tahir Wood wrote: >The true political cul de sac: thinking that you can ever get rid of >the right by voting for the left. Three questions: 1) Who actually thinks that? 2) Is it possible to get rid of the right some other way? 3) If so, how? Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Nov 17 19:22:33 PST 2003

24833 [lbo-talk] Is There Anything To This Peak Oil Business? -- rank: 1000

Ted Winslow wrote: >This raises questions, by the way, about the premise characteristic >of much Marxist writing that capital is everywhere and always >omniscient and instrumentally rational in its pursuit of >accumulation. But Ted, Marxist political economists don't do psychology. It's too subjective! Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Nov 17 19:11:49 PST 2003

24834 [lbo-talk] What's at stake? -- rank: 1000

Shane Taylor wrote: >There is a tremendous amount of circumlocution around Doug's point: >ousting Bush means greater breathing room for even the activist left. On the flight out to Seattle this morning, I read David Margolick's piece in the December Vanity Fair about Bush's judge nominees. I've heard them described as right wing, but never fully appreciated how dangerous and insane they are. When I said that I'd rather have politics be about something other than preserving the social gains ...

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Date:	Mon Nov 17 19:01:44 PST 2003

24835 [lbo-talk] Re: What's at stake? -- rank: 1000

Carrol Cox wrote: >Isn't there a tradition on this list that we don't call each other cops? Yes. I haven't been paying as close attention as I should for the last few days, but that sort of thing is verboten. Streng verboten. Doug

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Date:	Mon Nov 17 18:29:29 PST 2003

24836 [lbo-talk] Militarism & U.S. Corporate Economy -- rank: 1000

Bob Feldman wrote: >A bipartisan foreign policy of either "unilateral militarism" or >"multilateral militarism" appears to be built into the social structure of >the corporatist U.S. economic system of "Corporate Militarism". (see C. >Wright Mills, The Causes of World War III book, for instance). And >bipartisan support for even "limited financial aid to the Sharon regime" >also continues to perpetuate the drift to yet another Middle Ea ...

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Date:	Mon Nov 17 15:20:34 PST 2003

24837 [lbo-talk] Re: Anybody But Bush for Empire -- rank: 1000

JW Mason wrote: >Huh. I sort of had the idea that the politics of finance in general were to >the left of capital's central tendency. Not left left, but Clinton left. For >various reasons -- less labor-intensive, less vulnerable to international >competition, less (directly) affected by many forms of regulation. More >attuned to the needs of capital as a whole. Some superficial evidence that >this is so from, for instance, comparison of Clinton and Bush's Treasury >secretari ...

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Date:	Mon Nov 17 14:58:51 PST 2003

24838 [lbo-talk] Is There Anything To This Peak Oil Business? -- rank: 1000

kjkhoo at softhome.net wrote: >That WSJ piece you posted suggested a 'pie-in-sky/deep earth' kind >of theory. Not inadmissible in itself -- but has there been any >further developments/follow-up since that 1999 story? 4 years is a >long time. Haven't seen anything since, but it's a great story! Doug

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Date:	Sun Nov 16 20:40:11 PST 2003

24839 [lbo-talk] Is There Anything To This Peak Oil Business? -- rank: 1000

Miles Jackson wrote: >I think this came up onlist a few years ago; you should check >the archives. Deffeyes's book Hubbert's Peak is a good >exposition of this. He's a geologist who uses a plausible >statistical model to predict a worldwide peak in oil >production no later than 2010. His model quite nicely >accounts for the rise and continuing decline of oil >production in the U. S. As with all statistical models, >the model only as good as the assumptions used to cre ...

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Date:	Sun Nov 16 12:27:15 PST 2003

24840 [lbo-talk] NYPD beats up on anarchists -- rank: 1000

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: Critical Resistance Northeast Office, 718.398.2825, crnyc at criticalresistance.org November 16, 2003 NYPD ATTACKS PEACEFUL GATHERING AT BROOKLYN COMMUNITY SPACE 8 People Arrested at Benefit for Anarchist People of Color Brooklyn, NY - People attending a private fundraising event in Brooklyn were shocked early this morning by an unprovoked and violent assault at the hands of the NYPD. Up to 100 people attending a fundraiser for activists of color were indiscriminat ...

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Date:	Sun Nov 16 11:27:14 PST 2003