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24571 [lbo-talk] High-powered Marxist pinup girls? -- rank: 1000

Thomas Seay wrote: >I once went out on a "blind-date" with a russian girl >who looked like- no kidding- Brezhnev, if that counts. >Oh well, I guess better Brezhnev than Khruschev or >Lenin. Huh? Lenin's kind of sexy, don't you think, in that icy diabolical way? He's no Foucault, but compared to Brezhnev, he's pretty hot. Doug

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Date:	Tue Oct 21 16:29:18 PDT 2003

24572 [lbo-talk] Dean: transformative? -- rank: 1000

Michael Dawson -PSU wrote: >If the Demo candidate makes one or more major promises (e.g., progressive >taxation, jobs program, withdrawal from Iraq, labor law reform, getting >tough on Israel, etc.), I'll probably vote for him/her, even though I fully >expect quick betrayal of the promise. If we get another Gore-style >campaign, I'll vote Green. If Gore had acknowledged Nader and adopted even >a single one of Nader's platform planks, I'd have voted for Gore last time, If the ...

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Date:	Tue Oct 21 12:37:03 PDT 2003

24573 [lbo-talk] Was Max Cleland the victim of electronic voter fraud? -- rank: 1000

twright at ziplink.net wrote: >Visalia voters endured a ballot with a stupid design--stupid in isolation, >but doubly so after the infamous 2000 butterfly ballot--but nothing that >screams fraud. When the left calls fraud when simple explanations suffice, >it helps to inure the public against real frauds. It's not surprising that Mark Crispin Miller would gravitate to the simplest explanation. He also pushes the most simpleminded version of the ownership concentration thesis to expl ...

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Date:	Tue Oct 21 10:56:41 PDT 2003

24574 [lbo-talk] Dean: transformative? -- rank: 1000

Michael Dawson -PSU wrote: >Here's the key quote on what Dean's "transforming": > >"Dean is showing how the Democratic Party can become 'a party that can >transcend our interest groups, and that a candidate can get elected >without owing anyone anything,' Rosenberg said." In other words, the DLC reinvented as a quasi-mass movement? Nathan talks up Dean's pro-labor rhetoric, but if he doesn't owe anyone anything, then how could labor trust him? Politics is alway ...

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Date:	Tue Oct 21 10:34:07 PDT 2003

24575 [lbo-talk] Dean: transformative? -- rank: 1000

Wojtek Sokolowski wrote: >Goldwater was riding on- and >pandering to- a single issue - Southern racism and the Federal >government meddling with it (which is one coin with two faces since the >Civil War). That's not at all fair to Goldwater or many of his followers - and I say this as someone who was a conservative in the early 1970s. Yeah, sure there was an element of cracker ressentiment, but there were also principled libertarians who really believed in the liberating beauties of ...

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Date:	Tue Oct 21 09:28:30 PDT 2003

24576 [lbo-talk] Soros vs. America -- rank: 1000

[via nettime - anyone sub to Fortune who can get the full article?] A good article on George Soros with extra details to help us Americans understand more about his history: Soros has just committed $10 million of his own money to an effort to drum up support for Democrats in key states, immediately becoming one of the biggest individual donors to next year's electoral race. In September he staged a fundraiser for former Vermont governor Howard Dean. And after years of writing moderate, carefull ...

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Date:	Tue Oct 21 08:52:30 PDT 2003

24577 [lbo-talk] Krugman on Mahathir -- rank: 1000

mike larkin wrote: > > Somewhere in Pakistan Osama bin Laden must be >> enjoying this. The war >> on terror didn't have to be perceived as a war on >> Islam, but we seem >> to be doing our best to make it look that way. > >Oh, he's going to get it for this one. It's a good >piece, but I can already hear the slanders of "Krugman >is an anti-Semite" from Andrew Sullivan and those >other liars, et al. When responding to a long text, please ...

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Date:	Tue Oct 21 08:28:14 PDT 2003

24578 [lbo-talk] O'Reilly whines -- rank: 1000

Shane Taylor wrote: >Again, persecution fantasies seem to be an important part of these macho >blowhards' shtick. There's not much dignity in being a publicist for power, so they've got to set up a ridiculous fictional scenario in which they're the bold and persecuted dissenters from the ruling PC liberal orthodoxy. Doug

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Date:	Tue Oct 21 08:25:55 PDT 2003

24579 [lbo-talk] Diebold suing Indymedia ISP -- rank: 1000

Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 10:27:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Anderson <chanders_imc at yahoo.com> Subject: [IMC-NYC-Print] diebold suing indymedia isp provider?- please read To: imc-nyc-editorial at indymedia.org, imc-nyc-print at indymedia.org holy crap. has anyone at all been following this? i dont have time to go through the whole story now, but bascally, san fran imc, italy imc, and a bunch of other imcs were linking to a leaked internal diebold memo of some kind. diebold sent a cease and d ...

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Date:	Tue Oct 21 06:52:17 PDT 2003

24580 [lbo-talk] Dean: transformative? -- rank: 1000

Shane Taylor wrote: >I was at a local meeting of people organizing for Dean this weekend. >Transforming the party was an explicit and widely shared goal. I keep hearing this, but how's Dean a transformative vehicle. Barry Goldwater was a serious - wacko, if you prefer - movement conservative in 1964. He stood for stuff that was deeply out of fashion. Dean stands for...what exactly? How can you transform a party without an agenda? Doug

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Date:	Mon Oct 20 16:11:59 PDT 2003

24581 [lbo-talk] Snow: 200k jobs a month, interest rates to rise -- rank: 1000

[The White House had to do some damage control on Snow's interest rate comments. What he said was common sense, but it sounds bad coming from a Treasury Secretary. He's not supposed to talk like that, but Bush's economic officials don't always act like grownups. Goldman Sachs says his 200,000 jobs a month prediction is setting the bar high, and politically risky.] Times (London) - October 20, 2003 US interest rates 'to rise soon' Anatole Kaletsky AMERICAN interest rates are set to rise over the ...

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Date:	Mon Oct 20 15:39:21 PDT 2003

24582 [lbo-talk] Islamist lawyer: AQ "dead" -- rank: 1000

Islamist lawyer in Egypt pronounces al-Qaeda "dead" CAIRO (AFP) - The United States has destroyed the al-Qaeda terror network as an Islamic militant group but its leaders can still spur "angry young people" into staging attacks worldwide, an Egyptian lawyer said. "The Americans persist in saying al-Qaeda is still around to justify their so-called war on terrorism, but I think al-Qaeda is dead," said Islamist lawyer, Montasser el-Zayat, in an interview with AFP. Zaya ...

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Date:	Mon Oct 20 15:12:44 PDT 2003

24583 [lbo-talk] Fwd: ERROR CORRECTION: NEW GOD SURVEY DATA -- rank: 1000

ERROR CORRECTION In the last e-Skeptic on the Fox News survey on God beliefs, I reported a 13% error margin. That was an transcription error on my end in translating the data for the internet. It is plus/minus 3%. Copyright 2003 Michael Shermer, Skeptics Society, Skeptic magazine, e-Skeptic magazine (www.skeptic.com and skepticmag at aol.com). Permission to print, distribute, and post with proper citation and acknowledgment. We encourage you to broadcast e-Skeptic to new potential subscribers. N ...

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Date:	Mon Oct 20 14:11:27 PDT 2003

24584 [lbo-talk] God poll -- rank: 1000

NEW GOD SURVEY DATA Fox News Belief Poll More Americans believe in God than in heaven, but over a third believe in ghosts and UFOs. Fox News, of "Fair and Balanced" fame, has released the results of a survey just completed, revealing that 92 percent of Americans say they believe in God, 85 percent in heaven and 82 percent in miracles. Though belief in God remained at the same level from earlier surveys, belief in the devil increased from 63 percent in 1997 to 71 percent today. In other ...

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Date:	Mon Oct 20 14:07:25 PDT 2003

24585 [lbo-talk] Posting limit -- rank: 1000

Dennis Perrin wrote: >Doug's pretty generous, overall. God knows I've gone gonzo here as well, but >then I pull back for a few days and ease myself back in the rotation. It's >not that difficult, esp given that Doug's picking up the tab. Disclosure: I'm not paying for the list transmission anymore, thanks to Jordan's generous hosting of lbo-talk.org. The posting limit is intended to keep a lid on (very heavy) traffic, and to keep individual voices from dominating the discourse. Mailman ...

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Date:	Mon Oct 20 12:34:12 PDT 2003