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24076 [lbo-talk] Would Gore have invaded Iraq? -- rank: 1000

Dwayne Monroe wrote: >Apologies for not having specific references handy but >I believe the best argument (as in the most coherent, >not necessarily the most correct) put forward to link >'oil', understood broadly, to the invasion of Iraq is >the desire of neocons to ensure US dominance well into >the 21st century by placing a powerful American >military presence at the hub of world oil extraction >and shipment. Yes, we've discussed this before. And as I've said, I don't ...

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Date:	Sun Apr 11 09:57:50 PDT 2004

24077 [lbo-talk] GIs want out -- rank: 1000

From: "viviane" <vlerner at interpac.net> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 23:21:40 -1000 List-Id: News wire from Infoshop.org <infoshop-news.infoshop.org> Also http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0414/solomon.php Facing Iraq duty, two U.S. G.I.'s head north to seek asylum Soldiers Choose Canada by Alisa Solomon April 6th, 2004 11:00 AM =========== http://fairuse.1accesshost.com/news1/salon4.html Mission accomplished >>Thousands are seeking less dire means of escape. Calls to G ...

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Date:	Sun Apr 11 09:35:42 PDT 2004

24078 [lbo-talk] the greening of the Mafia -- rank: 1000

Eubulides wrote: >Mafia moves into the polluting business Hey, Tony Soprano was already there - "waste management." Doug

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Date:	Sun Apr 11 09:33:53 PDT 2004

24079 [lbo-talk] "Does the Jewishness of the neocons influence American foreign... -- rank: 1000

Michael Pugliese wrote: >But, it isn't always so easy to say, "No one here defends tyrant X, >" when one deals w/ those M-L realpolitikers who have in the past >have been upfront about supporting regimes and movements like Assad's >(wade through the archives of leftist_trainspotters at yahoogroups.com >which has a few hundred maoists, stalinists and trotskyists who >routinely excuse or validate breaking those eggs to make that >omelette that always ends up giving a ...

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Date:	Sun Apr 11 09:32:41 PDT 2004

24080 [lbo-talk] Kerry -- rank: 1000

Brad Mayer wrote: >In fact, the proposition is deliberately predicated upon ignoring >strategy. A typically American attitude, I must add: "ignore" and "long >term" are Siamese twins in the American mind. It is not surprising that >this is in fact the real strategy of the American left. So what's your plan, big guy? Doug

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Date:	Sun Apr 11 09:14:08 PDT 2004

24081 [lbo-talk] A Message to America's Students from Ralph Nader -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi quoted Ralph Nader: >Today enlistments in the Reserves and National Guard are declining. >The Pentagon is quietly recruiting new members to fill local draft >boards, as the machinery for drafting a new generation of young >Americans is being quietly put into place. There are serious morale and retention problems now with a professional army. After Vietnam, the ruling class realized that fighting imperial wars with conscripts was a route to disaster. The present war's ...

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Date:	Sun Apr 11 09:10:38 PDT 2004

24082 [lbo-talk] Would Gore have invaded Iraq? -- rank: 1000

kelley at pulpculture.org wrote: >Also, a lot of people dismissed the idea that this was about oil. >Given Clarke's revelations, this doesn't seem like such an absurd >idea any more. What's it mean that the war was "about" oil? Was the U.S. oil industry actively lobbying for the invasion of Iraq? I don't think there's any evidence of that. What would be the material gain from controlling Iraqi oil, except direct benefits for the companies involved? How would it benefit U.S. ca ...

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Date:	Sun Apr 11 09:05:28 PDT 2004

24083 [lbo-talk] "Does the Jewishness of the neocons influence American foreign... -- rank: 1000

Michael Pugliese wrote: > After an Islamist uprising in the spring of '82 in El Hama, >Syria, Assad, Sr. had the air force do some carpet bombing. Twenty >thousand were killed., according to pg. 174 of , "Right To Exist, " >by Yaacov Lozowick. Other estimates are higher. >A google hit, http://www.google.com/search?q=El+Hama+1982+Assad >http://www.2la.org/lebanon/ee/terrorsy.htm >The following is part of the horrific testimony of one survivor: What's the point ...

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Date:	Sat Apr 10 15:38:10 PDT 2004

24084 [lbo-talk] "Does the Jewishness of the neocons influence American foreign... -- rank: 1000

I'm not sure how productive this thread will be - it seems to promise more heat than light, and no alteration of original opinions. Doug

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Date:	Sat Apr 10 15:33:22 PDT 2004

24085 [lbo-talk] "Does the Jewishness of the neocons influence American foreign... -- rank: 1000

MOTECK1457 at aol.com wrote: >No American official ever asked me about what I say or do as a basis >of conferring American citizenship. I got it automatically because I >was born in the U.S. and my parents were citizens. Yeah, and Israel is pretty weird in that someone born in Brooklyn can displace someone born in Palestine. It's not "anti-Semitic" to point that out. Doug

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Date:	Fri Apr 9 23:37:58 PDT 2004

24086 [lbo-talk] RE: Calculated provocation -- rank: 1000

MOTECK1457 at aol.com wrote: Nine posts today, three times the daily limit. You've made it clear where you're coming from; modulate the volume. Doug

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Date:	Fri Apr 9 23:36:21 PDT 2004

24087 [lbo-talk] business births/deaths -- rank: 1000

The other day, Yoshie asked about the BLS's firm birth/death model, which it uses to estimate the number of jobs added or lost by new firms or firms that go under - changes that would be missed by its normal monthly sample. Here's a paper on the technique: <http://www.bls.gov/ore/abstract/st/st020090.htm>. Doug

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Date:	Fri Apr 9 13:48:08 PDT 2004

24088 [lbo-talk] house-to-house fighting in Fallujah; 400 Iraqis dead -- rank: 1000

US troops poised for house-to-house battle in Fallujah FALLUJAH, Iraq (AFP) - The sound of machine-guns and mortars reverberated across the Sunni Muslim bastion of Fallujah as US marines and insurgents battled on despite US efforts to suspend hostilities. The marines called for women and children to exit the city, but blocked men from leaving as they looked to hunt down those responsible for the brutal murders last week of four US contractors. Hundreds of fleeing families turned around when the ...

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Date:	Fri Apr 9 12:54:56 PDT 2004

24089 [lbo-talk] newspaper edits: stay the course -- rank: 1000

Editor & Publisher - April 9, 2004 Despite Setbacks, Top Papers Back U.S. Effort in Iraq 1 hour, 38 minutes ago NEW YORK Despite the growing upheaval and U.S. casualties in Iraq (news - web sites), a majority of the nation's 20 largest newspapers, in editorials during the past week, have urged the White House to stay the course. Among this group, however, there is wide disagreement on whether to send more troops and whether sticking to the June 30 handover of power to an Iraqi government is ...

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Date:	Fri Apr 9 12:37:18 PDT 2004

24090 [lbo-talk] RE: Calculated provocation -- rank: 1000

Michael Perelman wrote: Many pro-Israel voices suggest that one cannot be anti-Israel without being antisemetic. Could it be that this attitude lends itself to anti-Jewish responses? This is quite long, but I think it's really good, so I'm overriding my own length limits to post it. I just started reading Butler's new book - Precarious Life - and it's also very good (and this is incorporated into it). She's writing with unprecedented clarity these days. Doug ---- London Review of Books - August ...

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Date:	Fri Apr 9 11:54:31 PDT 2004