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24046 [lbo-talk] Re: Bush invaded Iraq because... -- rank: 1000

C. G. Estabrook wrote: >I'll check my pilot -- perhaps an unfortunate metaphor in these matters -- >but I'm frankly astonished by the suggestion that control of world energy >resources would *not* have significant strategic advantages, particularly >in a world of declining supplies. Control, shmontrol.

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Date:	Mon Apr 12 16:33:25 PDT 2004

24047 [lbo-talk] Re: Bush invaded Iraq because... -- rank: 1000

Ted Winslow wrote: > >Doug wrote: > >>Let me try this one more time. > >Keynes wrote: > >"I still suffer incurably from attributing an unreal rationality to >other people's feelings and behaviour (and doubtless to my own, >too). There is one small but extraordinarily silly manifestation of >this absurd idea of what is 'normal', namely the impulse to >_protest_ - to write a letter to _The Times_, call a meeting in the >Guildhall, subscribe to some f ...

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Date:	Mon Apr 12 16:20:31 PDT 2004

24048 [lbo-talk] Walmart/War about oil? -- rank: 1000

kelley at pulpculture.org wrote: >Anywho, my question is: Is the nature of market discipline different >if there's also an internal market of competing oil interests within >a nation-state and those oil interests compete with all other oil >interests on the market? Or is it simply enough that a nation's oil >is subject to the discipline of the world market? My sense is that it doesn't matter for world prices whether it's state companies selling into it or private ones; there are t ...

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Date:	Mon Apr 12 16:09:39 PDT 2004

24049 [lbo-talk] Re: Bush invaded Iraq because... -- rank: 1000

C. G. Estabrook wrote: >I'm surprised to see you write this dismissively about the US concern for >control of oil, Doug. Bush & friends didn't scheme to invade the Congo, >with far more enormities than Iraq (and of course no one in the USG -- >with the possible exception of Bush himself -- really thought that a >threat from Iraq was the motive). Chomsky quotes Eisenhower-era comments >about Saudi oil's being "a stupendous source of strategic power, and one >of the ...

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Date:	Mon Apr 12 15:58:13 PDT 2004

24050 [lbo-talk] Why Democrats Can't Blame Bush for 9/11 -- rank: 1000

Nathan Newman wrote: >So I think the American people have this one right. Don't play blame games >for 911 itself-- have a real debate about what we should have done and need >to do now to protect Americans from terrorism in the future. Oh, there's something so exasperating about American "niceness" sometimes. Don't blame Bush, don't get too personal, let's be constructive, let's not look back, etc. It makes me want to scream. It's just the kind of contentless idiocy that Alan ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Apr 12 14:28:29 PDT 2004

24051 [lbo-talk] Why Democrats Can't Blame Bush for 9/11 -- rank: 1000

Dennis Perrin wrote: >Realize that many Americans cannot -- will not -- find blame in their Holy >State no matter what. Not even the state - Bush the Lesser. Doug

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Date:	Mon Apr 12 14:24:53 PDT 2004

24052 [lbo-talk] Why Democrats Can't Blame Bush for 9/11 -- rank: 1000

Man, sometimes it's hard to escape the conclusion that many Americans are fucking idiots. Doug mike larkin wrote: >L.A. Times Via kos: > >"First, it means that based on the information available so far, >most Americans recoil from efforts to blame Bush for the attacks. >One leading Democratic interest group recently asked a focus group >in Florida to respond to a potential television ad accusing Bush of >negligence in failing to stop the attacks. The result was volcanic ...

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Date:	Mon Apr 12 13:56:52 PDT 2004

24053 [lbo-talk] War about oil? -- rank: 1000

kelley at pulpculture.org wrote: >At 03:31 PM 4/12/2004, Shane Taylor wrote: >>There seems to be a problem of price discrimination here. Even assuming >>that a puppet government and privatized oil industry gives the US great >>influence over prices. > >Since I'm the one who asked about privatization, can I assume that >your implicit answer (and Doug's) to my question is, "Yes, it looks >like the neocons want to see Iraqi oil (and the rest of the region's &g ...

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Date:	Mon Apr 12 12:56:03 PDT 2004

24054 [lbo-talk] Hardt & Negri on the new Magna Carta -- rank: 1000

[Provoking headscratching among autonomists and righteous amusement among Marxist-Leninists everywhere...] <http://www.globalagendamagazine.com/2004/antonionegri.asp> Why we need a multilateral Magna Carta Michael Hardt and Antonio Negri It is becoming increasingly clear that a unilateral or "monarchical" arrangement of the global order - centred on the military, political and economic dictation of the United States - is undesirable and unsustainable. The crisis of this arrangeme ...

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Date:	Mon Apr 12 12:34:31 PDT 2004

24055 [lbo-talk] Smoking Gun on 9/11 -- rank: 1000

At 11:44 AM -0400 4/12/04, editor at thesmokinggun.com wrote: >With the September 11 commission focusing this week on unheeded >warnings and myriad intelligence malfunctions by the CIA and FBI, >here are a few government memos that did not spur action: > >* As Condoleezza Rice tells it, the August 6, 2001 President's Daily >Brief was old news and contained "no new threat information." You >know, apart from that stuff about the 70 ongoing FBI investigations >of a ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Apr 12 12:26:12 PDT 2004

24056 [lbo-talk] Mozart, plumber's helper -- rank: 1000

I might add that flushing the toilet is an act of symbolic death, or more precisely burial, so the music is perversely appropriate. Doug

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Date:	Mon Apr 12 12:24:25 PDT 2004

24057 [lbo-talk] more Bush at work -- rank: 1000

Guardian (London) - April 12, 2004 President spends 40% of time out of the office Gary Younge in New York President George Bush has spent more than 40% of his presidency at one of his three retreats, sparking criticism from Democrats that he is not taking his job seriously at a crucial time in US history. Mr Bush was on his 33rd visit to his ranch in Crawford, Texas, at the Easter weekend, where he has spent 233 days or almost eight months since his inauguration, according to a tally by CBS news ...

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Date:	Mon Apr 12 10:05:48 PDT 2004

24058 [lbo-talk] Bush at work: "I've been busy, all these crises" -- rank: 1000

New York Times - April 12, 2004 THE PRESIDENT On Easter Sunday in Texas, Bush Awards Purple Hearts By JOEL BRINKLEY CRAWFORD, Tex., April 11 - President Bush, emerging from seclusion at his Texas ranch, acknowledged Sunday morning that it had been "a tough week last week" in Iraq. His manner was drawn and somber. His remarks came after Easter services at nearby Fort Hood. Mr. Bush also visited a military hospital and awarded Purple Hearts to 10 soldiers who were wounded in fighting in ...

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Date:	Mon Apr 12 10:04:01 PDT 2004

24059 Green content: was; Re: [lbo-talk] Re: Paul Felton -- rank: 1000

Maria Gilmore wrote: >This is a repost of a post in January from GP member and would-be >Presidential candidate Lorna Salzman. There was no comment about this post >by anyone on the mail list+ADs- there was also no comment on lbo-talk. But if >you're >looking for a green Green, I think Salzman's one: Dunno about that. I interviewed Salzman on the radio in '96 when she was one of many Green candidates for VP. I found her hostile and unpleasant. I don't think those are good charac ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Apr 12 09:47:37 PDT 2004

24060 As'ad AbuKhalil/ Re: [lbo-talk] real or photoshop? -- rank: 1000

Michael Pugliese wrote: >http://www.frontpagemag.com/ > >Symposium: The Left's Attack on Bush >By Jamie Glazov >Laurie Mylroie, Victor Davis Hanson, Matthew Yglesias and As'ad >AbuKhalil battle it out on why the Left has so much disdain for the >President. More> etc. Again I have to ask - what was the point of this? A bunch of links to Front Page in response to a photo? Doug

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Date:	Mon Apr 12 09:37:06 PDT 2004