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24031 [lbo-talk] Worker Communist Party of Iraq, April 4, 2004 -- rank: 1000

Michael Pugliese quoted the Workers CP of Iraq: >We repeat the demand of the masses for immediate withdrawal of the US >forces from Iraq. We call for transfer of the task of security and >stability to a government formed of the representatives of the masses in >collaboration with multinational forces, excluding the US and other >countries, which participated in the war coalition. This interim >government should disarm all militia forces and ensure security, freedom >and the ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Apr 14 06:24:01 PDT 2004

24032 [lbo-talk] Kyoto = Death Camp (seriously!) -- rank: 1000

Chris Doss wrote: >Talk about rhetorical overkill. > >Apr 14 2004 11:38AM > >Illarionov calls Kyoto Protocol interstate gulag, Auschwitz > >ST. PETERSBURG. April 14 (Interfax-Northwest) - Presidential >economic adviser Andrei Illarionov has sharply criticized the Kyoto >Protocol, an international agreement to cut greenhouse emissions, >saying it will "stifle economic growth" in many countries and >calling it "an interstate gulag or Aushwitz." ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Apr 14 06:16:29 PDT 2004

24033 [lbo-talk] "Unsuccesful" Insurgencies: A Right Wing Blogger Shoots Himself In the Foot -- rank: 1000

John Lacny wrote: >Doug cannot have asked this question after having actually read the >link that Mike Larkin refers to. I wasn't reacting to his historical analysis, just the idea that the U.S. couldn't defeat the insurgency in Iraq. At this point, who knows? Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Apr 13 19:27:51 PDT 2004

24034 [lbo-talk] "Unsuccesful" Insurgencies: A Right Wing Blogger Shoots Himself In the Foot -- rank: 1000

mike larkin wrote: >hilarious. > ><http://tacitus.org/story/2004/4/13/94026/2288>http://tacitus.org/story/2004/4/13/94026/2288 How do you know he's wrong already? Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Apr 13 11:54:08 PDT 2004

24035 [lbo-talk] Why Democrats Can't Blame Bush for 9/11 -- rank: 1000

Wojtek Sokolowski wrote: >Doug quoted: >> "What's wrong with America can be cured by what's right with America." >> - Bill Clinton > > >How? Dunno, but it's perfectly circular and enclosed, isn't it? Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Apr 13 10:39:15 PDT 2004

24036 [lbo-talk] Why Democrats Can't Blame Bush for 9/11 -- rank: 1000

Miles Jackson wrote: >I guess what I mean is the kind of highly formalized ritual of >respect you see in Southern children. Most of the Canadians >I've met aren't nice in the Southern-child-calls-adults-sir way; >they're happy to mouth off about their supposed betters, >they prefer honesty to tact, they're willing to challenge >authority. I prefer you guys myself, but Canada pretty >much fits in with what I meant about regimes of formal >politeness being prevalent in br ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Apr 13 09:35:49 PDT 2004

24037 [lbo-talk] Why Democrats Can't Blame Bush for 9/11 -- rank: 1000

Wojtek Sokolowski wrote: >America is not just a state, it is a religion. "What's wrong with America can be cured by what's right with America." - Bill Clinton

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Apr 13 09:34:19 PDT 2004

24038 [lbo-talk] Re: Bush invaded Iraq because... -- rank: 1000

uvj at vsnl.com wrote: >You are not fighting wars all the time. You can't use blockades and >bombardments or the threats thereof all the time. But let's work out this idea of strategic leverage. First the U.S. conquers the Middle East. Then it gets annoyed at China or France or Japan and tries to cut off its oil. How would it go about this? Would someone please fill in that blank? Instead of the two step procedure of 1) conquering and colonizing the Middle East and 2) cutting off the adver ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Apr 13 09:24:44 PDT 2004

24039 [lbo-talk] Re: Bush invaded Iraq because... -- rank: 1000

uvj at vsnl.com wrote: >How does the US retain its allies? Its first world allies get a pretty good deal. They've got living standards as high as ours or higher, they need spend almost nothing on their own militaries, and the U.S. guarantees political and economic "stability." It's a classic case of hegemony, of voluntary submission to the order. Leo Panitch is very good on this topic in my interview with him at <http://www.leftbusinessobserver.com/Radio.html>. Scroll down a s ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Apr 13 09:22:05 PDT 2004

24040 [lbo-talk] Re: A Calculated Provocation -- rank: 1000

Jon Johanning wrote: >And why is it that the world doesn't seem to have sympathy for the >Palestinians? Who says it doesn't? It's only the U.S. where the israelis are assigned the white hats and the Palestinians the black. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Apr 13 07:37:33 PDT 2004

24041 [lbo-talk] U.S. opinion on Iraq -- rank: 1000

American Public Opinion About Iraq Tuesday, April 13, 2004 Support for the War in Iraq A new Gallup Poll, conducted April 5-8, finds a drop in public support for the war in Iraq. The poll, taken amid increasing violence in several areas of Iraq, finds the public divided on whether the war was worth it. Half of all Americans now say it was worth going to war, while 47% say it was not worth it. A poll conducted two weeks before the latest survey found 56% of Americans supporting the war in Iraq. O ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Apr 13 07:04:10 PDT 2004

24042 [lbo-talk] Re: Bush invaded Iraq because... -- rank: 1000

Michael Pollak wrote: >On Mon, 12 Apr 2004, Doug Henwood wrote: > >> >And in any event, isnt control of the worlds energy resources worth >> >something? >> >> It might, if someone could explain to me what "control" means. > >Control only makes sense in time of war. Then it does make sense. Or it >did -- back when we had enemies that could conceivably threaten us. We're >still acting like we do. > >You're totally right about the ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Apr 13 06:25:07 PDT 2004

24043 [lbo-talk] Why Democrats Can't Blame Bush for 9/11 -- rank: 1000

Christian Gregory wrote: >So how can you disentangle "blame" or at least responsibility for >9/11 from the "real debate" you talk about? Clarke's point is that >the Bushies were so obsessed with Iraq as to ignore the threat of Al >Queda. That point is clearly right- And now we learn in the NYT that Ashcroft wasn't interested in AQ either. The story doesn't say what he was interested in instead. Probably porn. Doug

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Date:	Tue Apr 13 06:21:01 PDT 2004

24044 [lbo-talk] Re: Bush invaded Iraq because... -- rank: 1000

Michael Pollak wrote: >I apologize for my perservation. I honestly believe this is one time I've >nailed something. One time? You are too modest! Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Apr 13 06:17:58 PDT 2004

24045 [lbo-talk] Walmart/War about oil? -- rank: 1000

kelley at pulpculture.org wrote: >so, why did clinton want to put pressure on the world to privatize? That wasn't about oil - that was about phone companies, steel companies, etc., serving mainly domestic markets where there was lots of money to be made. >I haven't been talking about the personal gain of capitalists >through world oil prices. I'm talking about trying to understanding >why _the neocons_ are acting rationally on their own worldview. They may be. >you may think it's ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Apr 12 16:38:52 PDT 2004