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24001 [lbo-talk] Aspect of India'sEconReport:TheRealStateofIndia'sEconomy -- rank: 1000

Grant Lee wrote: >IMO it's relevant for the same reasons that Ho Chi Minh fought the French, >Japanese, the French again and then the Vietnamese bourgeoisie and the USA >(along with the second-tier imperialists Australia, South Korea, Thailand, >New Zealand and the Philippines); there is nothing to be gained by >"leftists" (which I presume we all are on this list, a few trolls and >eavesdroppers notwithstanding) applauding the decline of one capitalist >power, when ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Apr 20 06:51:01 PDT 2004

24002 [lbo-talk] IMCL: if only Sam & Martha had waited... -- rank: 1000

ImClone Stock Passes Pre-Scandal Levels Mon Apr 19, 5:35 PM ET By PAUL ELIAS, AP Biotechnology Writer Too bad Martha Stewart (news - web sites) and Sam Waksal weren't more patient with their investments in scandal-plagued ImClone Systems Inc. On Monday, the company's share price soared past pre-scandal levels and reached a two-year high, rising 12 percent to close at $66.38 in trading on the Nasdaq Stock Market. The stock hasn't been that high since Waksal desperately tried to unload close to 80 ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Apr 19 18:10:20 PDT 2004

24003 [lbo-talk] A Calculated Provocation -- rank: 1000

Chuck0 wrote: >I'm talking about the fact that a mass organization did not plan >Seattle. Seattle was the culmination of work done by many groups, >organizations, movements, networks, and individuals. It was not led >by some big mass organization that leftists are always telling us >that we must create before we can do anything. To say you need organization isn't to say you need The Organization - it's certainly not what I meant. But "Seattle" was a weeklong demo in a sm ...

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Date:	Mon Apr 19 16:27:52 PDT 2004

24004 [lbo-talk] Sadr calls for UN force -- rank: 1000

JW Mason wrote: >Doug, what on earth has Carrol done to deserve this relentless baiting? Also: At 10:26 PM -0500 8/27/03, Carrol Cox wrote: >No possible policy that leaves a foreign army in Iraq can lead to other >than disaster. But although "No U.N. involvement, U.S. Out" 'ought' to >be one of the core slogans of the anti-war movement, it will be a while >(and many 10s or 100s of thousands of deaths) before a movement can >began to coalesce around that. I think it im ...

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Date:	Mon Apr 19 15:55:03 PDT 2004

24005 [lbo-talk] Sadr calls for UN force -- rank: 1000

JW Mason wrote: > >Guess he didn't check with Yoshie & Carrol first...] > >Doug, what on earth has Carrol done to deserve this relentless baiting? At 5:56 PM -0500 9/3/03, Carrol Cox wrote: >This thread wandered off in some strange directions, and as I reread the >posts today I thought it would be worthwhile to give some of the >statements in it a different context. > >The White Man's Burden >By Rudyard Kipling > >Take up the White Man's burden-- > ...

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Date:	Mon Apr 19 15:47:31 PDT 2004

24006 [lbo-talk] Kerry: It's the Foreign Policy, Stupid -- rank: 1000

Brad Mayer wrote: >Like I've said a million times: > >Do what the US Left _refuses_ to do_ . Abandon the Democratic Party >once and for all. > >Don't look back. > >Engage a _permanent_ project to create an _independent_ progressive >political presence that consistently >runs candidates, targeting (first) progressive districts controlled >by Democrats. While we still have >elections. Who needs Barbara Lee? Nobody pays attention to Lee >because she's a De ...

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Date:	Mon Apr 19 15:18:03 PDT 2004

24007 [lbo-talk] Sadr calls for UN force -- rank: 1000

["Sadr also indicated through his spokesman that he favored the deployment of a UN peacekeeping force in Iraq 'on condition that it be made up of Muslim countries or countries which did not join the occupation of Iraq such as Russia, France or Germany.'" Guess he didn't check with Yoshie & Carrol first...] Sadr urges end to attacks on Spanish troops, mediation efforts resume Mon Apr 19,12:04 PM ET BAGHDAD (AFP) - A radical Shiite cleric urged his followers to stop attacking Spanish ...

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Date:	Mon Apr 19 14:41:03 PDT 2004

24008 [lbo-talk] A Calculated Provocation -- rank: 1000

Chuck0 wrote: >Lastly, the problem with the Days of Rage approach was that it was >organized by leftist students who saw themselves as the vanguard of >some imminent revolution. A Days of Rage approach that was organized >on a more open, democratic basis would pose a serious threat to >American Empire. But aren't you advocating some sort of vanguardist strategy? Most Americans are patriotic Christians, so there has to be some limit to your idea of democratic organizing here - some ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Apr 19 14:23:21 PDT 2004

24009 [lbo-talk] life in Iraq -- rank: 1000

[Editors' Note: Dahr doesn't seem to be staying put after all, which comes as little surprise to those of us who know him. Here is his latest weblog dispatch. Also, welcome to the more than 250 people who have joined this list since our last mailing two days ago!] Winning Hearts and Minds a weblog entry by Dahr Jamail The NewStandard web version with photos: <http://blog.newstandardnews.net/iraqdispatches/archives/000182.html> Last night an older Iraqi man in his shop on Karrada Street tol ...

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Date:	Mon Apr 19 13:59:45 PDT 2004

24010 [lbo-talk] A Calculated Provocation -- rank: 1000

Chuck0 wrote: >No, the point of all this is that we American dissenters could be >doing more and taking more risks. We need to keep dissenting, but we >have to understand that most forms of American dissent are just too >tame to stop the American "system." Too many American leftists seem >to think that merely opposing this regime or that war is enough to >absolve us of our responsibilities. We are privileged Americans who >enjoy freedom of speech and very little po ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Apr 19 12:52:28 PDT 2004

24011 [lbo-talk] Condi's slip -- rank: 1000

snitilicious at tampabay.rr.com wrote: >HA! I've been saying forever that she's blowing bush! But the item said "Nobody thinks Bush and Rice are actually an item." So it can't be true! Maybe it's just Condi's deeply unfulfilled wish speaking. Doug

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Date:	Mon Apr 19 10:13:05 PDT 2004

24012 [lbo-talk] Aspect of India's Econ Report:TheRealStateofIndia'sEconomy -- rank: 1000

Grant Lee wrote: >And I've said this before, but it's worth saying again: anyone who thinks a >world dominated by several economic powers, instead of one, is a recipe for >human progress, should go and examine world history from 1870 to 1914; that >will be our precursor. So does that mean you think a US-dominated world is the best of any immediately plausible alternative? Doug

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Date:	Mon Apr 19 10:05:14 PDT 2004

24013 [lbo-talk] A Calculated Provocation -- rank: 1000

Chuck0 wrote: >I suggest that you read Churchill's excellent book. He makes the >convincing argument that all of us Americans are complicit in the >crimes of the United States. Even those of us who work 24/7 in >opposition to U.S. imperialism and genocide. So let's all just kill ourselves, and spare our victims the time and effort. Will you & Churchill lead the way? Doug

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Date:	Mon Apr 19 10:04:01 PDT 2004

24014 [lbo-talk] Condi's slip -- rank: 1000

New York Magazine - April 26, 2004 Political Conversation: Condi's Slip A pressing issue of dinner-party etiquette is vexing Washington, according to a story now making the D.C. rounds: How should you react when your guest, in this case national-security adviser Condoleezza Rice, makes a poignant faux pas? At a recent dinner party hosted by New York Times D.C. bureau chief Philip Taubman and his wife, Times reporter Felicity Barringer, and attended by Arthur Sulzberger Jr., Maureen Dowd, Steven ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Mon Apr 19 09:30:02 PDT 2004

24015 [lbo-talk] Stan Goff: Falluja Lives! -- rank: 1000

Christian Gregory wrote: > >The Bridge — A Rant >>by Stan Goff >>WARNING: This commentary may cause anxiety. > >Boredom and dyspepsia are more like it. Is there a point to >this--other than to highlight Stan's narcissism? Oh, but his fans - in the very metropolitan zones he's so scornful of - can feel so hard-bitten reading passages like this: >That's why they don't listen to liberal platitudes about morality in >the abstract. They know about the power from the ...

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Date:	Mon Apr 19 07:09:55 PDT 2004