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23971 [lbo-talk] New Yorkers: Self-Defeating Snobbery -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >Kerry supporters' self-defeating snobbery toward the mythical Middle >America and the South (which overlap in their imagination) At 6:17 PM -0400 4/21/04, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: > My hypothesis is that Blacks, the foreign born, and native-born >Americans who have foreign-born parents were on the average much >less in favor of bombing Afghanistan in irrational response to the >9/11 terrorists, none of whom was an Afghan, than native-born whites >who ...

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Date:	Thu Apr 22 09:04:17 PDT 2004

23972 [lbo-talk] Bush speaks -- rank: 1000

<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A32616-2004Apr21.html> Interview With the President Bob Woodward interviewed President Bush on Dec. 10 and Dec. 11, 2003, for a total of 31/2 hours. The following are excerpts from those interviews. On how he decided to go to war: I want to work you back, take you to the day I declared war, or committed the troops. When I went in the Command Center, and it was a -- I was fully prepared at this point in time, reluctant to use troops. Tried dipl ...

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Date:	Thu Apr 22 08:11:05 PDT 2004

23973 [lbo-talk] Re: Sadr calls for UN force -- rank: 1000

Doug Henwood wrote: >Tahir Wood wrote: > >>The species of thought that I find most discouraging here is that >>which says we shouldn't critique anything if it seems to be the >>lesser evil. So don't criticise this or that dictator because he is >>anti-imperialist; don't mention some of the more unsavoury aspects >>of the Palestinian leadership because that would invite suspicion >>that you support Israel (!); don't criticise Stalin because that >>m ...

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Date:	Thu Apr 22 08:05:46 PDT 2004

23974 [lbo-talk] Re: Sadr calls for UN force -- rank: 1000

Tahir Wood wrote: >The species of thought that I find most discouraging here is that >which says we shouldn't critique anything if it seems to be the >lesser evil. So don't criticise this or that dictator because he is >anti-imperialist; don't mention some of the more unsavoury aspects >of the Palestinian leadership because that would invite suspicion >that you support Israel (!); don't criticise Stalin because that >means that you are buying the Western mythology, etc., etc ...

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Date:	Thu Apr 22 08:02:59 PDT 2004

23975 [lbo-talk] Interesting Geras post on the "the resistance" -- rank: 1000

Luke Weiger wrote: >http://normblog.typepad.com/normblog/2004/04/glorious_resist.html What's so interesting about that? Sounds pretty standard issue. Doug

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Date:	Thu Apr 22 07:49:51 PDT 2004

23976 [lbo-talk] Black Commentator on the "no difference crowd" -- rank: 1000

<http://www.blackcommentator.com/87/87_cover_kerry.html> Kerry's DLC vs. The Pirates Let's be clear about the choices available to American voters in November. History - most notably the historical weakness of the U.S. Left - has dealt the cards. Yet a fraction of those who claim to be progressives - misreading history and oblivious to the evidence of their senses - pretend that there is no overarching reason to do everything humanly possible to defeat George Bush in 2004. They claim there ...

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Date:	Thu Apr 22 07:35:27 PDT 2004

23977 [lbo-talk] New Yorkers -- rank: 1000

JW Mason wrote: >From: "Yoshie Furuhashi" <furuhashi.1 at osu.edu> > >> The hypothesis is that white New Yorkers may have more in common with >> white Middle Americans than with Black New Yorkers, foreign-born New >> Yorkers and native-born New Yorkers with foreign-born parents. > >No doubt this is true in some ways. But as someone doing political >organizing in New York, I would say that (1) there's much less truth to it >than someone witho ...

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Date:	Thu Apr 22 07:22:57 PDT 2004

23978 [lbo-talk] New Yorkers -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >The hypothesis is that white New Yorkers may have more in common >with white Middle Americans than with Black New Yorkers So? I'm not even sure how true it is, since many of us white New Yorkers live here precisely because we don't have a lot in common with "white Middle Americans." (And there are many kinds of white Middle Americans - they're not all bellicose racists. Maybe you've met a few.) But it's not really relevant to the discussion anyway, which ...

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Date:	Wed Apr 21 16:36:01 PDT 2004

23979 [lbo-talk] New Yorkers -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >According to Census 2000, 27 percent of the population of New York >City identified themselves as Black ("Census 2000 Supplementary >Survey Profile: Population and Housing Profile: New York city, New >York," ><http://www.census.gov/acs/www/Products/Profiles/Single/2000/C2SS/Narrative/160/NP16000US3651000.htm>). >Census 2000 also tells us that 36% of New Yorkers were foreign born >and that 48% spoke a language other than English at ho ...

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Date:	Wed Apr 21 15:39:57 PDT 2004

23980 [lbo-talk] that Marine photo -- rank: 1000

At 11:57 AM -0400 4/21/04, editor at thesmokinggun.com wrote: >A soldier who served in Iraq has told Marine officials that an >offensive picture of him circulating online was doctored, leading >military brass to call in criminal investigators to handle the >photographic sleuthing: > >http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0419042iraq1.html

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Date:	Wed Apr 21 12:00:06 PDT 2004

23981 [lbo-talk] never believe anything until it's officially denied -- rank: 1000

U.S. Says Iraq Coalition Is Not Crumbling By Steve Holland WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House insisted on Wednesday the U.S.-led coalition in Iraq (news - web sites) was strong despite comments from staunch ally Poland that it may join three other nations in withdrawing troops. On a day when at least 68 people died in suicide car bombings in southern Iraq, the Bush administration faced questions as to whether enough money was being allocated to fund U.S. military operations this year in Iraq ...

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Date:	Wed Apr 21 10:15:43 PDT 2004

23982 [lbo-talk] Aspect ofIndia'sEconReport:TheRealStateofIndia'sEconomy -- rank: 1000

Dennis Redmond wrote: >They don't need the US to be a global gendarme anymore. They have the euro >instead. > >The ECB is mightier than the Pentagon. You've got to be kidding. What is the ultimate backing of money if not the force that keeps the social hierarchy together? Otherwise, it'd just be brightly colored paper. Doug

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Date:	Wed Apr 21 09:31:28 PDT 2004

23983 [lbo-talk] Diebold docs released -- rank: 1000

Leaked Documents Show History of Problems at Diebold FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Date Wednesday April 21st, 6:00 AM Pacific FOR MORE INFORMATION CONTACT: Andy Stephenson, 206.778.0524, coppertop98125 at yahoo.com Leaked Documents Show History of Problems at Diebold Andy Stephenson, Voting Activist and Candidate for Washington’s Secretary of State Releases 150 pages of leaked documents received anonymously from Diebold Whistle Blower SEATTLE – Memos obtained by nationally recognized voting activist, a ...

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Date:	Wed Apr 21 06:46:40 PDT 2004

23984 [lbo-talk] Hardt clarifies -- rank: 1000

[I asked Michael Hardt to clarify the "new Magna Carta" piece he & Negri wrote for the World Economic Forum's magazine <http://www.globalagendamagazine.com/2004/antonionegri.asp> - specifically, whether it's "descriptive or prescriptive." Here's his response.] It is prescriptive. (They asked us to write something and we tried to make a suggestion they could understand.) But the prescription is not only for the WEF participants (EU included) to rethink and question ...

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Date:	Wed Apr 21 06:44:11 PDT 2004

23985 [lbo-talk] Aspect ofIndia'sEconReport:TheRealStateofIndia'sEconomy -- rank: 1000

Dennis Redmond wrote: >The EU and East Asia are vastly more civilized than the US. By that, I >mean they don't routinely bomb, blast and slaughter Third World countries No, but the U.S. does it for them. It's a nice deal - global "stability" and comfortable material circs along with keeping relatively clean hands (permitting occasional mounting of the moral high ground) in return for political subordination. Works for Canada too. Doug

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Date:	Tue Apr 20 18:54:02 PDT 2004