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23671 [lbo-talk] Nothing to Discuss? was Re: (no subject) -- rank: 1000

Dennis Redmond wrote: >Clinton did many vile things, but he was not a demented >petro-fundamentalist freakozoid out to commit arson in the world's most >combustible region. I really can't stress this enough: we're not dealing >with some Cold War choice between two henchcreatures of a single national >security state. The Black Commentator's Glen Ford in an interview I recorded yesterday for broadcast on tomorrow's radio show (quoted from memory, but pretty close): "The Republi ...

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Date:	Wed Aug 25 14:49:33 PDT 2004

23672 [lbo-talk] Anybody But Nader -- rank: 1000

Carrol Cox wrote: >Tsk tsk. Join the rest of us "irony-challenged" people who infest the >left. Dear Lance has made homophobic remarks in the past, so I didn't take that to be ironic. An excerpt from his debut posting: At 8:19 AM +0000 11/1/01, Lance Murdoch wrote: >The only labor/union threads that seem to get picked up on here are >ones bashing labor and unions, including Mr. Henwood's complaining >about that the AFL-CIO wasn't embracing the spotted owl. The >anoth ...

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Date:	Wed Aug 25 14:01:04 PDT 2004

23673 [lbo-talk] Anybody But Nader -- rank: 1000

Lance Murdoch wrote: >The Sierra Club and the Human Rights Campaign? Aren't they a bunch >of homosexuals >and tree-huggers? Asshole. What are your politics, anyway? Some kind of crude "left" Archie Bunkerism? Doug

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Date:	Wed Aug 25 13:28:56 PDT 2004

23674 [lbo-talk] Re: Lew Hill on Pacifica/the pros -- rank: 1000

Joseph Wanzala wrote: >The issue of 'professionalism' was central to the debates around >Pacifica in the 90s, and professionalism was the mantra and the >trojan horse of the would be hijackers. So what? Just because two groups of people use the same word doesn't make them allies. Doug

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Date:	Wed Aug 25 12:09:43 PDT 2004

23675 [lbo-talk] Rubin withdraws "Kerry would have invaded" remark, sorta -- rank: 1000

Washington Post - August 25, 2004 Comments on Iraq War In Error, Says Kerry Aide By Jim VandeHei Washington Post Staff Writer A top national security adviser to John F. Kerry said yesterday that he made a mistake when he said the Democratic nominee probably would have launched a military invasion to oust Saddam Hussein if he had been president during the past four years. On Aug. 7, Jamie Rubin told The Washington Post that "in all probability" a Kerry administration would have waged wa ...

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Date:	Wed Aug 25 12:06:05 PDT 2004

23676 [lbo-talk] notes on the labor process -- rank: 1000

<http://starbucksgossip.typepad.com/_/2004/08/tipping_debate_.html> August 24, 2004 Tipping debate: How much should you tip for a cup of coffee?

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Date:	Wed Aug 25 12:00:00 PDT 2004

23677 [lbo-talk] NYPD factchecks the NY Post -- rank: 1000

New York Observer - August 25, 2004 Off the Record by Tom Scocca For readers whose life under Code Orange wasn't nerve-jangling enough, this week the New York Post unveiled a whole new level of pre-Republican National Convention terror: Code Gray. On Aug. 23, under the Post's ever-more-must-read "Exclusive" badge, the paper warned that "[a] number of extremists with ties to the 1970's radical Weather Underground Š are in New York preparing to wreak havoc" on the convention. S ...

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Date:	Wed Aug 25 10:09:05 PDT 2004

23678 [lbo-talk] defend Johnny Cash! -- rank: 1000

ANNOUNCING THE MAN & WOMAN-IN-BLACK-BLOC RISING UP TO DEFEND THE HONOR OF JOHNNY CASH * * * JOHNNY CASH SPOKE FOR THE POOR AND UNDER-REPRESENTED THE REPUBLICANS SPEAK FOR THE RICH JOHNNY CASH ADVOCATED FOR PRISON REFORM THE REPUBLICANS LOCK US UP JOHNNY CASH SANG FOR OUR MINERS, FARMERS, AND WORKERS REPUBLICAN ECONOMICS CRUSH THE WORKING CLASS THE RNC HAS NO RIGHT TO TARNISH THE MEMORY OF JOHNNY CASH WE WILL RISE UP TO DEFEND THE HONOR OF AN AMERICAN HERO www.defendjohnnyca ...

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Date:	Wed Aug 25 10:01:23 PDT 2004

23679 [lbo-talk] US capital whines about the labor market -- rank: 1000

Eubulides wrote: >Skilled Labor in High Demand >Employers Lament Declining Ranks of Capable Workers You get what you pay for....

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Date:	Wed Aug 25 09:57:34 PDT 2004

23680 [lbo-talk] Anybody But Nader -- rank: 1000

Chuck0 wrote: >We will get scolded for having this exchange Yup, though in this case John Lacny's attack was unprovoked. There is no Movement that "decides" anything, or is any position to tell anyone to shut up. There are smart anarchists and stupid anarchists, but you could say the same of just about any other group of humans. Doug

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Date:	Wed Aug 25 09:53:53 PDT 2004

23681 [lbo-talk] "shut-up-a-thon" at Fox, Tuesday -- rank: 1000

The Official Republican National Convention FOX NEWS "SHUT-UP-A-THON" 1211 Ave. of Americas (between 47th & 48th) Tuesday, August 31, 4 pm Join Fox News' Bill O'Reilly in shouting, "Shut up!" (his favorite line) in front of Fox's corporate HQ. Also, you won't want to miss the spectacular moves of the 'Fox News Republican Cheerleaders' ’ guaranteed to leave you stupefied.* Brought to you byCODEPINK <http://www.codepink4peace.org>, Houston Global Awareness,Prometheus ...

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Date:	Wed Aug 25 08:08:40 PDT 2004

23682 [lbo-talk] Rove behind the SBVfT? -- rank: 1000

New York Post [Page Six] - August 25, 2004 BOAT AD BLAMED ON BUSH AIDE THE makers of the new documentary "Bush's Brain" claim that President Bush's powerful political guru Karl Rove is behind the Swift Boat scandal that continues to torment John Kerry. "This was a third-party attack that was hatched by Karl Rove," co-director/producer Michael Shoob alleges. "When you see the Swift Boat ads," says his partner, Joe Mealey, "You can see that it's been repeated ove ...

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Date:	Wed Aug 25 07:49:35 PDT 2004

23683 [lbo-talk] Frogs and Scorpions -- rank: 1000

DeborahSRogers wrote: >But what would happen if the GOP, having lost this one to Kerry, >decided to take another approach after the election? I'd suggest >that if they cut the nastiness, embrace Kerry as one of their own and >muddy the already muddied waters even further between Dems and the >GOP, then they'd have an excellent shot at moving this country >towards their own brand of conservatism even more. Not likely - they're all about nastiness, and there's no way they could ...

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Date:	Wed Aug 25 07:34:22 PDT 2004

23684 [lbo-talk] Lew Hill on Pacifica -- rank: 1000

Joseph Wanzala wrote: >Doug, all you ever do is rag on Pacifica, All? I'll chalk that up to exaggeration for rhetorical effect. > even though you have a program on Pacifica's New York station WBAI >(which I assume you think is as equally distant from Lew Hill's >vision as the rest of Pacifica programming) and are happy to appear >on other Pacifica stations as you did on KPFA's Mouning Show today. Yes, of course. I think Pacifica is an invaluable resource that's not being used to ...

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Date:	Wed Aug 25 07:24:40 PDT 2004

23685 [lbo-talk] Anybody But Nader -- rank: 1000

Shane Mage wrote: >It was my impression that the topic of Mike's comment >>("Among Democrats I know, the mobilization is anything >>but "top down." It's rank and file Democrats pushing >reluctant leaders to take tougher stands.") >was on the topic of their party's efforts to deny voters >in many states the right to vote for Nader. That stinks. American ballot access laws are a disgrace, and trying to deny candidates a line is dirty pool. But that's not ...

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Date:	Wed Aug 25 06:43:06 PDT 2004