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2326 [lbo-talk] Strauss Kahn -- rank: 1000
On Aug 24, 2011, at 2:10 PM, Wojtek S wrote: > In other words, she started to change her story in June. I can > imagine the following scenario: The defendants attorney calling the > complainant' or her attorney attorney and says something like "Look > you have nothing to gain by going ahead with your rape story. You > will be dragged through the mud, and even if the People win the case > you get nothing out of it. If on the other hand, you decide to change > the stor ...
Document Size: 5776
Author: Doug Henwood
Date: Wed Aug 24 11:22:29 PDT 2011
2327 [lbo-talk] Strauss Kahn -- rank: 1000
On Aug 24, 2011, at 11:12 AM, Dissenting Wren wrote: > Seriously, this rush not only to say that the prosecution probably couldn't have won the case, but to impugn the victim, creeps me the fuck out. Did you read any of the prosecutors' statement? It's not impugning the victim to say that she lied extravagantly in her interviews with the DA. Aside from the gang rape - which she first claimed she put on her asylum application, which turned out not to be true - she had three completely inconsis ...
Document Size: 7952
Author: Doug Henwood
Date: Wed Aug 24 08:39:47 PDT 2011
2328 [lbo-talk] Strauss Kahn -- rank: 1000
On Aug 24, 2011, at 10:10 AM, Dissenting Wren wrote: > I agree that you can't run a decent criminal justice system on presumption. OTOH, the pragmatic decision not to prosecute in cases where dragging the complainant's name through the mud is likely to succeed makes it possible to rape with impunity if: > --you rape a woman who survives as an immigrant by hook or by crook She worked at a major hotel for the last 3 years. That's not "hook or crook." > --you rape a woman who &q ...
Document Size: 5798
Author: Doug Henwood
Date: Wed Aug 24 08:13:18 PDT 2011
2329 [lbo-talk] tremors -- rank: 1000
Joke, via Mike Allen: Stan Collender of Qorvis, at Sidecar (downstairs at P.J. Clarke's restaurant, at 16th and K), when the 5.8 quake hit at 1:51 p.m. EDT: "Was that Chris Christie jumping into the race?"
Document Size: 4692
Author: Doug Henwood
Date: Wed Aug 24 07:02:28 PDT 2011
2330 [lbo-talk] Strauss Kahn -- rank: 1000
By the way, it turns out that she didn't invent the tale of the gang rape for her asylum application, which would have been entirely understandable, if not legal. She just made it up for the prosecutors. Also, she told three completely different versions of her actions following the encounter with DSK. When presented with evidence (the key swipe records) showing that the second was impossible, she denied having said it. http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/238252/motion-to-dismiss-dominique-str ...
Document Size: 10780
Author: Doug Henwood
Date: Wed Aug 24 06:52:51 PDT 2011
2331 [lbo-talk] Strauss Kahn -- rank: 1000
On Aug 24, 2011, at 9:11 AM, Wojtek S wrote: > I think the case would have had a very different outcome if the > defendant were not some stinking rich/high status bastard - probably > prosecutors would have offered some "plea bargaining" agreement in > exchange for a more lenient sentence, as it is often the case. > Prosecutors enjoy a wide range of discretion in these matters, no? So you're saying that prosecutors should have plea-bargained a case that would have resul ...
Document Size: 5208
Author: Doug Henwood
Date: Wed Aug 24 06:30:37 PDT 2011
2332 [lbo-talk] Question on LBO #133 front-page chart -- rank: 1000
The graph is the change over ten years in the number of jobs. Not unemployment. And thanks.
Document Size: 4669
Author: Doug Henwood
Date: Tue Aug 23 11:23:09 PDT 2011
2333 [lbo-talk] Strauss Kahn -- rank: 1000
On Aug 23, 2011, at 8:13 AM, Wojtek S wrote: > This is in a well established tradition of the US justice system. If > you are rich, you will get away with almost anything, except perhaps > screwing other rich (cf. Bernie Madoff.) If you are poor, you will be > prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Well, yeah, but how do you think a trial would go if the only witness had completely concocted a story about a gang rape in her past? Doug
Document Size: 4891
Author: Doug Henwood
Date: Tue Aug 23 07:48:36 PDT 2011
2334 [lbo-talk] Shoplifters of the world, unite -- rank: 1000
On Aug 22, 2011, at 5:49 PM, Dennis Claxton wrote: > That's because he's worked very hard to get it. We'd be better positioned, I think, if more academics tried to tour like a rock star. And his point is worth taking seriously, though few people want to do so, fixating either on his choice of words or his celebrity instead. Doug
Document Size: 4922
Author: Doug Henwood
Date: Mon Aug 22 15:04:04 PDT 2011
2335 [lbo-talk] Blankfein hires defense attorney -- rank: 1000
MarketWatch www.marketwatch.com BULLETIN: Goldman Sachs shares fall in final minutes on news of CEO Blankfein hiring defense lawyer 08/22/2011 04:04:10 PM EDT
Document Size: 4721
Author: Doug Henwood
Date: Mon Aug 22 13:13:30 PDT 2011
2336 [lbo-talk] Shoplifters of the world, unite -- rank: 1000
On Aug 22, 2011, at 2:11 PM, Dennis Claxton wrote: > That''s not exactly what he did. He said "they fit much better the Hegelian notion of the rabble , those outside organised social space, who can express their discontent only through irrational outbursts of destructive violence what Hegel called abstract negativity ." > > That's a bit different than "calling them rabble." No one wants to read that part. They want to fixate on the word and go Nyah! Nyah!
Document Size: 5143
Author: Doug Henwood
Date: Mon Aug 22 12:56:26 PDT 2011
2337 [lbo-talk] Shoplifters of the world, unite -- rank: 1000
On Aug 22, 2011, at 12:33 PM, Charles Turner wrote: > To take the Communist Horizon video as an example, likely many of the audience earn a precarious living as Web monkeys at the various financial, media and advertising corps in NYC. They're already predisposed to some sort of political thinking. How to organize them? That's an excellent question. And while I know that a lot of people have some bones to pick with Jodi about the talk, that organization question - unions, parties, whatever, so ...
Document Size: 5586
Author: Doug Henwood
Date: Mon Aug 22 09:45:05 PDT 2011
2338 [lbo-talk] Poverty incidence in Latin America 1980-2009 -- rank: 1000
On Aug 22, 2011, at 12:23 PM, Julio Huato wrote: > Poverty incidence in Latin America 1980-2009 (CEPAL data): > > http://bit.ly/oK29SU Where's the underlying data from? Doug
Document Size: 4944
Author: Doug Henwood
Date: Mon Aug 22 09:36:06 PDT 2011
2339 [lbo-talk] new radio product -- rank: 1000
BEHIND THE NEWS with Doug Henwood "Best Music on an Economics & Politics Radio Show" Village Voice Best of NYC 2005 Freshly posted to my radio archive (actually the files have been there for a while, but the web gateway wasn't updated - if you subscribe to the podcast, you've gotten these already) <http://www.leftbusinessobserver.com/Radio.html>: August 20, 2011 Max Ajl, the Jewbonics blogger, on why Israelis are in the streets and how talk of the Occupation is not welcome ...
Document Size: 8163
Author: Doug Henwood
Date: Sun Aug 21 13:55:13 PDT 2011
2340 [lbo-talk] plain text please -- rank: 1000
On Aug 21, 2011, at 1:00 PM, Gar Lipow wrote: > On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 6:42 AM, Ferenc Molnar > <ferenc_molnar at hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> Argh! I always choose the "plain text" option in Hotmail before I send my messages but the "?"'s continue to appear in the compilation emails sent out by lbo-talk (but not on the html archive). Why am I still being questioned????? > > A guess: You have your browser or email client set to something other > ...
Document Size: 5389
Author: Doug Henwood
Date: Sun Aug 21 12:18:50 PDT 2011
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