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23161 [lbo-talk] Taking Power -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >But building such a party takes a long time, and, frankly, I don't >think that LBO-talk (where patience is in short supply) Huh? My critique of Green strategy is precisely that they had been trying to leapfrog the years of local organizing necessary to create a national party by running a celebrity for president, and it didn't work. And I've said about 146 times that my only hope for a Dem president is slightly better policies and a better discursive and organizing ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Fri Feb 20 08:50:20 PST 2004

23162 [lbo-talk] McEntee: Dean is "nuts" -- rank: 1000

New York Times - February 20, 2004 Labor Supporter Says Dean Ignored His Entreaties to Quit By ADAM NAGOURNEY WASHINGTON, Feb. 19 - One of Howard Dean's most powerful labor supporters, Gerald W. McEntee, said on Thursday that he had decided that Dr. Dean was "nuts" shortly before he withdrew his support for Dr. Dean's candidacy and begged him to quit the race to avoid a humiliating defeat. Mr. McEntee, the president of the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees, d ...

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Date:	Fri Feb 20 08:45:02 PST 2004

23163 [lbo-talk] Bush expected to announce candidacy any day now -- rank: 1000

Joseph Wanzala wrote: >I would say Shane point is quite simple - something alone the lines >of 'first, do no harm'. Why should ABB's cite the rail against the >proscription of civil liberties only to threaten violence or tacitly >approve violence against people (like Nader) exercising their >constitutional rights to political action. The position that it is >wrong for Nader to run because we all have to rally around Kerry is >a political opinion that can be respected only as ...

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Date:	Fri Feb 20 08:40:48 PST 2004

23164 [lbo-talk] the Dean effect -- rank: 1000

Bill Bartlett wrote: >Even if we grant, for the sake of argument, that there is a >connection, it cannot be assumed that the election of a Democrat >president gave rise to the upsurge in activism. It might well be the >other way around, that the upsurge in activism may have been a >causal factor in the election of a Democrat president. > >It has been argued by a few people that this has historically been >the case. For some reason you assume the opposite, but I don't > ...

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Date:	Fri Feb 20 08:34:19 PST 2004

23165 [lbo-talk] Re: RIP, Dr. Fraud -- rank: 1000

Carl Remick wrote: >I'm not talking about psychosis but about garden-variety neurosis >and noodling around with your noggin as hobby. Hobby? How is trying to get out from under depression and/or bad choice of love objects a hobby? Funny you should set the hysterically optimistic Emerson against the gloomy Mitteleuropaische Freud, the man who said that the goal of psa was to turn hysteria into ordinary unhappiness. I'd have thought SF might appeal to your own gloomy anti-Americanism. Doug

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Date:	Fri Feb 20 08:04:12 PST 2004

23166 [lbo-talk] Re: RIP, Dr. Fraud -- rank: 1000

Carrol Cox wrote: >I read through the Modern Library Giant collection of Freud back in 1949 >or so and was impressed at first. Lemme see if I've got this right - your very vocal opinions about Freud are based on reading an anthology 55 years ago? > Trilling even impressed me in his use >of Freudian concepts. What started me being suspicious was _exactly_ >arguments like this: i.e., psychoanalytic arguments were never about a >shared world but about _you_. That's just not true. ...

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Date:	Fri Feb 20 08:01:50 PST 2004

23167 [lbo-talk] Re: RIP, Dr. Fraud -- rank: 1000

Carl Remick wrote: >This is where my man R. W. Emerson comes in. I prescribe a hearty >dose of self-reliance. On the journey of self-discovery, I don't >think you need some kibitzer with a medical degree charging >$100/hour to show the way. In fact, I think such practice is >self-defeating because it causes you to doubt your own judgment and >encourages protracted dependence on the aforesaid MD. Ralph Waldo Emerson, the consummate American narcissist? The "transparent e ...

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Date:	Fri Feb 20 07:46:51 PST 2004

23168 [lbo-talk] The lesser of two weevils -- rank: 1000

Tahir Wood quoted: >New Democracy is proposing a strategy that meets these requirements. >We are calling on people to refuse en masse to vote in the 2004 >presidential electionñ and to say why they are doing it. This is a >strategy that can include the entire electorate, including the 50% >who already do not vote. It makes a powerful statement: that the >electoral process is a fraud. Its mass character and its message >will strengthen people's understanding that real change ...

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Date:	Fri Feb 20 07:42:56 PST 2004

23169 [lbo-talk] Hef's life -- rank: 1000

New York Post [Page Six] - February 20, 2004 HEFNER'S SECRET LUST: JELL-O IT'S meant to be a treasury of advice and wisdom from the greatest living symbol of hedonism - Hugh Hefner - but "Hef's Little Black Book" comes off as a guidebook to arrested development. The book, written with author Bill Zehme, details how Hefner's life is a pre-adolescent's dream of comfort food and video games - with wonderment and no cynicism. "He is truly touched by little things that remind him of hi ...

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Date:	Fri Feb 20 07:27:21 PST 2004

23170 [lbo-talk] Re: RIP, Dr. Fraud -- rank: 1000

Carl Remick wrote: >Allow me to take Yoshie's place in the penalty box as a repeat >overposter today and observe that I do not view Freud and Marx as >natural allies. AFAIC, the time individuals spend navel-gazing and >twiddling with their own psyches is time lost for contemplating the >evils of a society that twists people's minds and brings out their >most neurotic inclinations. I'm also on record here as saying that >I don't think much of anti-anxiety and anti-depressiv ...

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Date:	Thu Feb 19 21:04:25 PST 2004

23171 [lbo-talk] Bush expected to announce candidacy any day now -- rank: 1000

Shane Mage wrote: >> John Lacny wrote:- >> >>... a vote for Nader would encourage both him and his >>granola-chomping camp-followers to continue with their idiotic >>behavior. As for Nader in the debates, it would be wise on his part >>if he would not make that his primary demand this year, as he did >>last time, and instead he should prioritize getting himself some >>hefty Secret Service protection. > >If Mr. Lacny is typical of today's &qu ...

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Date:	Thu Feb 19 20:30:35 PST 2004

23172 [lbo-talk] Race & Opinions -- rank: 1000

Chuck0 wrote: >Like, duh, of course there is Latino heavy metal, punk, and techno music! Los Crudos! Si!!

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Date:	Thu Feb 19 15:55:12 PST 2004

23173 [lbo-talk] Freud -- rank: 1000

Carl Remick wrote: >And no, there's nothing "scientific" about Freud's own particular >wooly-minded notions of the unconscious. He was truly a charlatan's >charlatan. How much Freud have you actually read? Doug

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Date:	Thu Feb 19 15:47:30 PST 2004

23174 [lbo-talk] Why do left-liberals dominate the academe? -- rank: 1000

Certainly not in economics departments.

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Date:	Thu Feb 19 15:39:37 PST 2004

23175 [lbo-talk] Re: RIP, Dr. Fraud -- rank: 1000

Christian Gregory wrote: >And every time someone points out how ridiculous he was, someone >(Doug, of all people!) Freudianizes the effort: oh, you're trying to >kill me, I must be very radical/threatening/a limit object etc. Hey, I'm just drawing attention to the repeated attempts to bury the good doctor, which remind me very much of the repeated attempts to bury Marx. If either were really no damned good, or of so little importance, why the repeated attention? Doug

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Date:	Thu Feb 19 15:36:20 PST 2004