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23086 [lbo-talk] Pat Robertson on the polymorphously perverse -- rank: 1000

[I love the Xtian right's view - that humans tend towards polymorphously perverse and essentially have to be coerced into the straight & narrow.] >On this day in 1987, Pat Robertson tells his "700 Club" audience >why gay positive imagery is bad for high school students. "As a >seventeen-, sixteen-year-old, the maximum sex urges running through >a young boy, and you give him pictures . . . positive homosexual and >lesbian relationships with pictures and the whole ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Thu Feb 26 07:04:33 PST 2004

23087 [lbo-talk] Sullivan -- rank: 1000

Man, Andrew Sullivan is going crazy over the Bush marriage amendment. It's kinda beautiful <http://www.andrewsullivan.com/>. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Feb 25 19:09:53 PST 2004

23088 [lbo-talk] PeePeeEye Delay -- rank: 1000

Brad Mayer wrote: >Anybody know the difference between the classification systems mentioned >below? <http://www.bls.gov/ces/cesnaics.htm> >Be nice to know what the "unexpected difficulties" are. Producer prices >off the chart? Perhaps Mr. Steinberg knows. Call him. He probably answers his own phone and could disabuse you of these conspiracist notions. >Contact: Gary Steinberg > 202-691-5902 For Release: Immediate

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Feb 25 19:02:18 PST 2004

23089 [lbo-talk] David Harvey: another Marxist falls to the liberal virus -- rank: 1000

In a presentation tonight at a Columbia University seminar, David Harvey said (apologies for the fragments, but I can only take notes so quickly): "If Bush is turned out of office in November, and let's hope he is.... I hope a Democrat does get elected in November...it will stop us heading down a neo-fascistic path...it'd get Ashcroft out, which would be great...it won't change the fundamental structures of imperialism we've been talking about here...but the differences are not trivial...&q ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Feb 25 18:58:04 PST 2004

23090 [lbo-talk] Lockerbie - Witness gagged by USG -- rank: 1000

Joseph Wanzala wrote: >Lockerbie: CIA witness gagged by US government > >http://www.sundayherald.com/8759 The Sunday Herald seems to be full of world exclusives? Do they just print the news others are afraid to, or are they gullible, or what? Doug

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Date:	Wed Feb 25 15:07:03 PST 2004

23091 [lbo-talk] RE: Where do republican presidents come from -- rank: 1000

joanna bujes wrote: >Carrol: >"If this list is still around when a _really_ obnoxious Republican is >elected in 2012 to follow a diastrous second term by Kerry, someone >might forward this to the list at that time. (I don't anticipate 8 more >active years for myself.)" > >Carrol, this is the silliest argument you've ever made on LBO The counterfactual eludes me. If no Dem is ever elected, do the Reps get worse on their own? Do they somehow improve? Or would the mas ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Feb 25 14:22:23 PST 2004

23092 [lbo-talk] Left Behind: Nader numbers -- rank: 1000

John Lacny wrote: >Are you some kind of fucking idiot? We can disagree without getting so harshly personal. Love, Listmom

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Date:	Wed Feb 25 13:39:29 PST 2004

23093 [lbo-talk] the DJ Dangermouse saga -- rank: 1000

[this is from Carrie McLaren, editor of Stay Free!] Ah, the saga of DJ Dangermouse continues. EMI sent out a cease and desist notice to Stay Free!/Illegal Art and about 150 other websites this week, claiming "willful violation of [copyright] laws." EMI wanted to prevent Grey Tuesday, an online protest of Capitol's attempt to squash Dangermouse's "Grey Album," from taking place. The New York Times article below has the crucial background info. What this means for Stay Free! is ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Wed Feb 25 08:16:47 PST 2004

23094 [lbo-talk] Wolf and Bloom -- rank: 1000

N P Childs wrote: >Bloom to me sounds like too many aged, tenured and intellectually >lazy profs I met in the 1980's, who viewed their undergrad >population as a happy hunting ground for flexible, nubile and >hopefully easily impressed bed mates. Bloom was never intellectually lazy. Doug

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Date:	Wed Feb 25 06:23:52 PST 2004

23095 [lbo-talk] ...where angels fear to tread (was Wolf v Bloom) -- rank: 1000

<heartfield at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >I can't believe that the comedic value of Doug Henwood, Paul >Childs, John Lacny and James Heartfield debating Katie Roiphe and >Camille Paglia's claim to the title 'feminist' is hard to get. They're free to comment. So's Phyllis Schaffly, and, in better days, Margaret Thatcher. I doubted that they were fair representatives of "the sisterhood," which the G&M columnist claimed they were. I know that Roiphe would reject the lab ...

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Date:	Wed Feb 25 06:10:18 PST 2004

23096 [lbo-talk] Wolf and Bloom -- rank: 1000

<heartfield at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >But no, Roiphe and Paglia's credentials have been rejected by the >feminist credential committee: Doug and Paul! James, Roiphe personally described herself to me as "anti-feminist." Most feminists would agree, but that's beside the point, since she offered the label. When I asked her why, she answered that they were humorless and anti-sex (this is almost a direct quote). When I asked her who represented that kind of feminism to her, ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Feb 24 16:18:12 PST 2004

23097 [lbo-talk] CNN poll on marriage amendment -- rank: 1000

In response to Bush's advocacy today for the FMA, CNN is running this question as its "QuickPoll": Should the U.S. Constitution be amended to ban same-sex marriages? As of 4:20 p.m. EST the votes were: YES 44% 76,552 NO 56% 95,833 Please navigate to http://www.cnn.com and see the bottom right side of the main page to cast your vote. (Remember that a "No" vote is in favor of same-sex marriage.) Dan Pinello P.S. Please feel free to forward this message to ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Feb 24 15:49:36 PST 2004

23098 [lbo-talk] RE: U.S. PPI data won't be released today -- rank: 1000

paul childs wrote: >Ahh, I see. Interesting, as far as I know (i.e. I haven't looked for >about 6 years) Stats Can are still using the SIC, guess they'll have >to change. Dunno. The NA in NAICS represents an attempt to harmonize the classification system in in the three NAFTA countries. Years ago I talked to a Fed economist who said the whole PPI program was a mess - thousands of prices combined chaotically into a single misleading measure. Converting that from SIC to NAICS must be real ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Feb 24 14:02:26 PST 2004

23099 [lbo-talk] Working Class Whites -- rank: 1000

Michael Pugliese wrote: ><URL: http://xroads.virginia.edu/~MA97/price/open.htm > >Wray, Matt and Annalee Newitz, eds. White Trash: race and class in >America. New York: Routledge, 1997. -- Michael Pugliese I've got a piece in there called "Trash-O-Nomics." Basic argument: Americans tend to racialize poverty (white = rich, black = poor), but poverty comes in all colors. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Tue Feb 24 13:58:54 PST 2004

23100 [lbo-talk] RE: U.S. PPI data won't be released today -- rank: 1000

paul childs wrote: > >WASHINGTON, Feb 23 (Reuters) - A U.S. Labor Department official said on >>Monday that it was not publishing its January producer prices report >>today and said she did not know when it will be issued > >Errr, as a non-American economist I don't know what this means. >Given the Dubyaviks propensity for hiding bad or 'incorrect' >information my suspicions are raised, or is this just a technical >glitch, or maybe the begining of the end for an ...

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Date:	Tue Feb 24 13:21:54 PST 2004