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23041 [lbo-talk] Re: IAC/ANSWER hack to defend saddam? -- rank: 1000

uvj at vsnl.com wrote: >Are "anti-imperialism" and "anti-war movement" the only possible bases for a >viable Left politics in the US? There's a long tradition in U.S. politics that's suspicious of foreign adventures. Some of it is for the wrong reasons - i.e., dislike of foreigners - but there's also a tradition that says that democracy at home is incompatible with empire abroad. So, phrased carefully, it has potential. Doug

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Date:	Mon Jan 5 11:52:12 PST 2004

23042 [lbo-talk] faux punk lyrics -- rank: 1000

JT Ramsay wrote: >anything by bad religion after recipe for hate. greg graffin is >probably the most idiotic of the soCal libertarian punk scene and >with the least subtle lyrics on offer. > >and furthermore: unlike uk punks of the late 70's, when fans wear >swastikas to bad religion shows, they really mean it. So does this mean that Bad Religion is libertarian or Nazi? Or neither? I think "I Want to Conquer the World" is a great song, even if it's ideologically suspe ...

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23043 [lbo-talk] Hello! -- rank: 1000

Alex Gould wrote: >Yeah I'm for real, thanks Carrol. I doubt I'll be posting much, essay >form, villanelle, or otherwise. Even if I could muster the patience and >level-headedness required, Carrol and Yoshie already supply twice what >the rest of you crazies deserve. By the way, Dean sucks. This thoughtful use of "crazies" and "liberals" as epithets would qualify you for a stint on Fox. Who said Dean was so great, anyway? Doug

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23044 [lbo-talk] Hello! -- rank: 1000

Carrol Cox wrote: >This was superb, regardless of who wrote it. > >I hope "Alex Gould" is not a pen name; if he is for real we have a >valuable new voice on the list. Milton, thou shouldst be living at this hour...

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Date:	Mon Jan 5 09:07:55 PST 2004

23045 [lbo-talk] Bill Bennett Has Domitrax Mistress in Vegas!! No joke!! -- rank: 1000

That's dominatrix, not domitrax. Someone emailed me the other week with this "news" and I didn't know what to do with it. Nice story, if true. Doug mike larkin wrote: ><http://atrios.blogspot.com/2004_01_04_atrios_archive.html#107326735990871640>http://atrios.blogspot.com/2004_01_04_atrios_archive.html#107326735990871640 > > ><http://www.evilgopbastards.com/>http://www.evilgopbastards.com/ > > >Do you Yahoo!? ><http://search.yahoo.com/top2003>F ...

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23046 [lbo-talk] Re: IAC/ANSWER hack to defend saddam? -- rank: 1000

Stephen Philion wrote: >Saddam's right to council should be a given, >but who should provide it is a legit subject of debate. > >--utter nonsense, i'm sorry. due process is about lawyers not having to fret >over whether or not their counselling 'good guys'. either ya stand by it or >ya don't. poo pooing someone for representing x or y because it's >patriotically incorrect by definition annuls any commitment to due processs. Steve, no one's disputing SH's right to a lawyer. T ...

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Date:	Mon Jan 5 07:03:42 PST 2004

23047 [lbo-talk] re Clark/SH -- rank: 1000

Stephen Philion wrote: >WWP's contacts in Iraq were Ba'athists and they've defended the regime, no? > > >--well, yes, they were in contact with the Baathists, it's hard to know how >any work could be done in Iraq otherwise. It was more intense than that - their only contacts in Iraq were with Ba'athists. They didn't talk to either of the Communist parties, for example. Doug

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Date:	Mon Jan 5 06:51:00 PST 2004

23048 [lbo-talk] Hello! -- rank: 1000

Alex Gould wrote: >A president so pacifist he wouldn't knife a pancake stack Wow, a great line. One for the ages. A masterful union of form & content! Do you do any other forms? I keep hoping someone will post in a villanelle form, but my wish is constantly frustrated. Perhaps you're the man for the job. Doug

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Date:	Mon Jan 5 06:25:58 PST 2004

23049 [lbo-talk] re Clark/SH -- rank: 1000

Stephen Philion wrote: >Thomas Seay writes: >Ramsey Clark is a prominent member of the anti-war >mvmt and even associated with a group that sympathizes with >Ba'athists > >---wow...you just make stuff up to support your arguments... WWP's contacts in Iraq were Ba'athists and they've defended the regime, no? Doug

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Date:	Sun Jan 4 21:04:48 PST 2004

23050 [lbo-talk] Re: SADDAM HUSSEIN'S GAME ISN'T OVER YET -- rank: 1000

jacdon at earthlink.net wrote: >Actually I have participated in a few "conversations" on the list but they >were so filled with back-biting and low-level attacks that it didn't seem >productive to continue the practice. I.e., people criticized you for your association with IAC, right? Seems the IAC style is not too dissimilar to your style of one-way broadcasting. Doug

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Date:	Sun Jan 4 14:14:23 PST 2004

23051 [lbo-talk] Fwd: <nettime> Silicon Valley puntime -- rank: 1000

[via nettime] From: "cisler at inreach.com" <cisler at inreach.com> To: nettime-l at bbs.thing.net Subject: <nettime> Silicon Valley puntime Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 11:02:38 -0500 I enjoy seeing the way English is mused on this mailing list. I sometimes see words that have been processed and tranlated by German and French philosophers, and I can't find them in my dictionary. Here's an article from the print version of the San Jose Mercury News about new words and definitions ...

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Date:	Sun Jan 4 13:56:21 PST 2004

23052 [lbo-talk] NYTimes Reviews Chomsky's _Hegemony or Survival_ -- rank: 1000

Hey, at least they reviewed it, which is good for thousands of library sales. Some of us have yet to be honored with even a bad review. Doug

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Date:	Sun Jan 4 10:27:57 PST 2004

23053 [lbo-talk] McLemmee's blog, and a plug for ANE -- rank: 1000

The excellent Scott McLemee has a new blog <http://www.mclemee.com/>. On the front page is a link to his nominations for Best Books of 2003 that ran in Newsday <http://www.newsday.com/features/books/ny-a3599324dec28,0,2408567.story?coll=ny-bookreview-headlines>: >SCOTT McLEMEE > >A lot of my reading nowadays is done in an effort to figure out just >exactly what the hell is going on. To understand the news you need a >sense of context. But the nature, and maybe even the ...

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Date:	Sun Jan 4 10:07:24 PST 2004

23054 [lbo-talk] SADDAM HUSSEIN'S GAME ISN'T OVER YET -- rank: 1000

jacdon at earthlink.net wrote: >The following article appears in the Jan. 4, 2003, email edition of the >Hudson Valley Activist Newsletter, published in New Paltz, NY, and >distributed by jacdon at earthlink.net. >--------------------------------------- > >SADDAM HUSSEIN'S GAME ISN'T OVER YET >By Jack A. Smith I'm getting tired of the way you just broadcast these things without participating in any actual conversation. It's not as if they're compelling pieces of political pr ...

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Date:	Sun Jan 4 09:17:03 PST 2004

23055 [lbo-talk] mapping the power structure -- rank: 1000

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Date:	Sat Jan 3 09:45:59 PST 2004