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23011 [lbo-talk] Re: people in glass cages shouldn't... -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >Ali (suddenly popular on LBO-talk!) Hey, I've interviewed him a bunch of times over the years, and even ran the transcript of one in LBO <http://www.leftbusinessobserver.com/Ali.html>. You can criticize people and still admire most of their work, you know. Doug

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23012 [lbo-talk] Re: people in glass cages shouldn't... -- rank: 1000

Carrol Cox wrote: >And yet no one on this list is raving about those supporters of monsters >who voted for Carter in '76. Well you are. Don't you count in your own estimation?

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23013 [lbo-talk] Re: people in glass cages shouldn't... -- rank: 1000

Stephen Philion wrote: >I'm still at a loss as to how Saddam is a monster, Musharraf, Mubarak, Saudi >Royales, Uzbekhi dictators, etc. are not monsters in the general discourse. You know the answer - it's all a matter of who's a friend or an enemy of the U.S. I don't think anyone's disputed that. What a lot of lefties have trouble admitting is that even enemies of the U.S. can be awful. I'd guess also that the cumulative death toll for SH's regime is a lot higher than most of the regimes y ...

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Date:	Tue Jan 6 12:47:21 PST 2004

23014 [lbo-talk] Jargon alert -- rank: 1000

Carrol Cox wrote: >Doug Henwood wrote: >> >> >> Oh, right, I keep forgetting the Correct Line. Oh right, no policing of language or thought goes on. Let a thousand flowers bloom. Call 'em as you see 'em. Etc.

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Date:	Tue Jan 6 12:33:04 PST 2004

23015 [lbo-talk] Bush grants FBI new powers -- rank: 1000

Wired News - 02:00 AM Jan. 06, 2004 PT Bush Grabs New Power for FBI By Kim Zetter Story location: <http://www.wired.com/news/privacy/0,1848,61792,00.html> While the nation was distracted last month by images of Saddam Hussein's spider hole and dental exam, President George W. Bush quietly signed into law a new bill that gives the FBI increased surveillance powers and dramatically expands the reach of the USA Patriot Act. The Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2004 grants the FB ...

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23016 [lbo-talk] Re: people in glass cages shouldn't... -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >Aside from that Saddam Hussein is "secular," "pitiless," and >"ruthless," "created and backed by the West," you don't learn >anything about the Ba'ath Party in particular or Iraq in general >from the above sound bites by Ali and Chomsky. That's the nature of >sound bites, you see. Fucking hell, no on pretended that this was a full analysis. You got on your high horse about the application of the word "monster&q ...

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23017 [lbo-talk] Re: people in glass cages shouldn't... -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >Aside from that Saddam Hussein is "secular," "pitiless," and >"ruthless," "created and backed by the West," you don't learn >anything about the Ba'ath Party in particular or Iraq in general >from the above sound bites by Ali and Chomsky. That's the nature of >sound bites, you see.

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23018 [lbo-talk] Re: Eyewitness in Tikrit -- rank: 1000

mike larkin wrote: >Yoshie wrote: > >" ***** January 06, 2004 >North Adams, MA >Article Published: Friday, December 26, 2003 - 11:37:11 AM EST" > >What came across from my guy was the tremendous fear among Iraqis >that they were going to be abandoned by the U.S. to the tender >mercies of the Baathists and the criminals who are all running >around armed to the teeth. I'm sorry if this conflicts with your >"bring 'em home now" line. The Gallup ...

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23019 [lbo-talk] happy happy happy all the time! -- rank: 1000

[I guess the happiness measure is taken post-prozac.] POLL ANALYSES January 5, 2004 A Nation of Happy People Most are happy and satisfied with their lives by Lydia Saad GALLUP NEWS SERVICE PRINCETON, NJ -- Happiness. As in, "life, liberty, and the pursuit of." The nation's founders considered happiness to be one of the ultimate objectives of life, so when Gallup asks Americans how happy they are it's no trivial matter. Using the happiness standard, one would have to say the country is ...

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23020 [lbo-talk] Re: people in glass cages shouldn't... -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >The concept of "monsters" is a mental block that prevents us from >analyzing the history of Iraq in particular and the nature of >political power in a modern state in general. From interviews broadcast on October 17, 2002 and archived at <http://www.leftbusinessobserver.com/Radio.html>: "This is a monster who has been created and backed by the West. On the left, he's been hated for ages. He's a pitiless and ruthless dictator." - Tariq A ...

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Date:	Tue Jan 6 11:57:46 PST 2004

23021 [lbo-talk] Fox v CNN -- rank: 1000

[the question of Fox News's ratings came up the other day - next to big TV shows, these numbers are pretty small - e.g. leaders like 60 Minutes & Monday night football are in the 12-13 million range, and popular series are in the 8-10 million range - SpongeBob draws about 4 million] Atlanta Journal-Constitution - January 6, 2004 Fox fattens lead on CNN in peak year for cable news By CAROLINE WILBERT The Atlanta Journal-Constitution News from Iraq made 2003 a good year for ratings at cable ne ...

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Date:	Tue Jan 6 09:39:58 PST 2004

23022 [lbo-talk] fighting for freedom of expression -- rank: 1000

[via Sam Smith's Progressive Review] US MILITARY BLOCKED FROM READING ELECTRONIC IRAQ http://electroniciraq.net/news/1302.shtml JO WILDING, ELECTRONIC IRAQ - Web administrators in one of the military bases in Baghdad have blocked access to the Electronic Iraq website. They do this for sites deemed "unnecessary," including those of "advocacy groups," which they've decided that e-Iraq is. Any soldiers reading may be interested to know that, unless they've also blocked Google, y ...

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23023 [lbo-talk] Re: people in glass cages shouldn't... -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >The concept of "monsters" is a mental block that prevents us from >analyzing the history of Iraq in particular and the nature of >political power in a modern state in general. The approach we we >want is a combination of historical materialism and concepts such as >"the banality of evil" developed by Hannah Arendt. Oh, right, I keep forgetting the Correct Line. Is it ok to say the Ba'athist regime was monstrous? Or is that a contravent ...

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Date:	Tue Jan 6 09:21:43 PST 2004

23024 [lbo-talk] Re: IAC/ANSWER hack to defend saddam? -- rank: 1000

uvj at vsnl.com wrote: >Does the US Left prefer "anti-imperialist" agit-prop to anti-capitalist >politics? A lot of it does, yes, though I await correction from Carrol Cox. Doug

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23025 [lbo-talk] U.S. Army: re-up & claim $10,000 bonus -- rank: 1000

Strained U.S. Army Offers Fat Re-Enlistment Bonuses Tue Jan 6, 7:39 AM ET By Charles Aldinger WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Army, stressed by global deployments, is offering re-enlistment bonuses of up to $10,000 to soldiers in Iraq (news - web sites), Afghanistan (news - web sites) and Kuwait, Army officials said on Monday. Soldiers currently in those countries -- and others headed there in the coming three months to replace them -- could receive lump payments of between $5,000 and $10,000 fo ...

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