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22771 [lbo-talk] words for the black community -- rank: 1000

Carrol Cox wrote: >And part of the reason that I may be both crabby and pompous is that >damn it 10s of thousands of us _learned_ this through thought and >practice, often rather painful practice and confused and stumbling >thought, in the '60s and 70s, and it gives me a fucking pain in the neck >to see what was once so clear become so damn obscurred. If all you wise folks learned so much in the 1960s, what happened? Why did the movements disintegrate and the lessons dissipate? Wh ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Jul 4 14:06:33 PDT 2004

22772 [lbo-talk] "preaching to the choir" -- rank: 1000

Chuck0 wrote: >True, more "average" people are seeing this movie, but the folks >gushing over it are mostly the usual suspects. This movie will >probably radicalize a few more people, but what kind of long term >change does this mean? Are we talking about people "seeing the >light" and deciding to vote for the left wing of the Republican >Party, or will this film radicalize people to reject electoral >politics in order to work for direct action in their c ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Jul 4 12:38:51 PDT 2004

22773 [lbo-talk] CP's hit on F911 -- rank: 1000

[wotta pile of crap - I saw the movie in Danvers, Mass., which is not much like Northampton, but the audience reactions were not dissimilar - and yesterday in a chain steakhouse in suburban NJ we overheard a gray-haired lady in a powder-blue suit at the salad bar, urging fellow diners to see it] <http://www.counterpunch.org/valentine07022004.html> July 2, 2004 Moore's Fahrenheit 911 Mocking the Moral Crisis of Capitalism By DOUGLAS VALENTINE "The question is not what goal is envisaged ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Jul 4 09:41:11 PDT 2004

22774 [lbo-talk] words for the black community -- rank: 1000

snit snat wrote: >Sometimes--like when someone dares bring up porn flicks or something >like that--and not a few people on the list will note that they >think it's not a "real" topic deserving of list attention -- in >spite of Doug's OWN claims about what he thinks this list ought to >discuss: economics AND culture. Yup. Feminism straddles both, and if we're not talking about it, we're failing. Doug

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Date:	Sun Jul 4 09:33:15 PDT 2004

22775 [lbo-talk] Moore: F911 not a pro-kerry tract -- rank: 1000

<http://www.time.com/time/press_releases/article/0,8599,660927,00.html> New York -- "I don't like this film being reduced to Bush vs. Kerry," Fahrenheit 9/11 director Michael Moore tells TIME's Richard Corliss in this week's cover story. Moore tells TIME, "When Clinton was president I went after him. And if Kerry's president, on Day Two I'll be on him." [...]

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Jul 4 09:18:17 PDT 2004

22776 [lbo-talk] Cobb on CNN -- rank: 1000

Jon Johanning wrote: >Nader is a white lawyer If you consider people of Lebanese origin white. Doug

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Jul 4 09:01:35 PDT 2004

22777 [lbo-talk] Estonia to SS: "We love you!" -- rank: 1000

Chris Doss wrote: >Tallinn to host SS veterans forum > >TALLINN. July 3 (Interfax) - Tallinn will host the >12th congress of the Union of Freedom Fighters on July >6, which includes veterans from the 20th Estonian SS >division. Man, sometimes you find yourself wishing the Captive Nations were captive again. Doug

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Date:	Sun Jul 4 09:00:36 PDT 2004

22778 [lbo-talk] "Stupid Straight Men on the Left" -- rank: 1000

Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: >What you think of as "the majority" is actually a minority and vice >versa. Those who, like yourself, can afford to concentrate on >economy and economy alone in separation from oppressions based on >race, gender, sexuality, etc. in the international division of labor >are decidedly *a minority* in their respective nations as well as in >the entire world. Presumably people give priority to 'class' because it's all about access to property and ...

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Date:	Sun Jul 4 08:46:22 PDT 2004

22779 [lbo-talk] words for the black community -- rank: 1000

R wrote: >LOL. dwayne, i just knew that sooner or later we'd find some common >ground. you're a trip. and to think i really believed this white boy could >never ruffle your precious, pomaded feathers. Man, even your characterizations are offensive. Put a cork in it, or you're an ex-member of this list. Doug

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Date:	Sun Jul 4 08:22:06 PDT 2004

22780 [lbo-talk] Brando, Kazan, HUAC -- rank: 1000

<http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/jul2004/bran-j03.shtml> WSWS : Arts Review : Obituary Marlon Brando, 1924-2004 By David Walsh 3 July 2004 [...] "On the Waterfront tells the story of Terry Malloy (Brando), a longshoreman and former boxer, who ends up telling a crime commission everything he knows about the operations of the corrupt and murderous local union leadership. Kazan and screenwriter Budd Schulberg, also a HUAC informer, made the film in large measure to justify their own ac ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sun Jul 4 08:10:52 PDT 2004

22781 [lbo-talk] anniversary -- rank: 1000

[via Tom Heald's daily Pridelets...] On this day in 1981, buried on page 20 in The New York Times this morning this report from Lawrence K. Altman, on a "Rare Cancer Seen in 41 Homosexuals": Doctors in New York and California have diagnosed among homosexual men 41 cases of a rare and often rapidly fatal form of cancer. Eight of the victims died less than 24 months after the diagnosis was made. The cause of the outbreak is unknown, and there is as yet no evidence of contagion. But the d ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sat Jul 3 09:39:21 PDT 2004

22782 [lbo-talk] words for the black community -- rank: 1000

snit snat wrote: >At 04:44 AM 7/3/2004, R wrote: > >>let me make it as simple for your enuied self as i can: if it isn't what >>you call "capitalism" it would be something else. just like every other >>black -- as cosby pointed out -- in this racist society you're simply going >>to have to suck it up and work harder. >> >>i get the impression you don't like cosby because he's talking about you. >>you'd much rather argue against whites y ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sat Jul 3 09:29:46 PDT 2004

22783 [lbo-talk] Why do they hate Moore? -- rank: 1000

We saw The Corporation last night. Yawn. Almost 2.5 hours long, preachy, conventional documentary style, superficial petit bourgeois critique of "corporations" with no sense of what capitalism's about. Moore appears as a talking head in it - and a breath of fresh air. Seeing something as tedious as that a week after seeing F911 makes you really appreciate Moore's genius. Doug

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Date:	Sat Jul 3 09:27:57 PDT 2004

22784 [lbo-talk] Cobb on CNN -- rank: 1000

[a belated transcript of a Tuesday appearance] WOODRUFF: Fascinating. Bill Schneider, thank you very much. Well, as the nominee of the Green Party, David Cobb is guaranteed a spot on the ballot in 22 states, and the District of Columbia, now seven of those states are Bush-Kerry battle grounds. Green Party candidate David Cobb joins us now from San Francisco. Congratulations on getting the nomination of the Green Party. DAVID COBB (G), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Thank you, Judy. WOODRUFF: What do yo ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sat Jul 3 09:18:29 PDT 2004

22785 [lbo-talk] Stanley Arononowitz on Science: Brooklyn Greens Event -- rank: 1000

[This could be funnier than whatever's running on Comedy Central at the time. I can't believe Stanley has the nerve to return to this topic after the Sokal incident. But Stanley wouldn't be Stanley if he were equipped with normal mechanisms of embarrassment and shame. The typo in the subject line is (sic).] Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 18:49:24 -0400 To: mitchelcohen at mindspring.com From: mitchelcohen at mindspring.com Subject: July 7th: Stanley Arononowitz on Science: Brooklyn Greens Event: Reply-T ...

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Author:	Doug Henwood
Date:	Sat Jul 3 09:13:50 PDT 2004